High Cal, low weight food

[dlovett]

Can anybody recommend any brands/pre-packed foods that offer more than the 250-300cal per 100g and can be made by just adding hot water. I don't want to carry a pan, just a cookng mug if possible.

Thanks

D

[jpw247]

Got to be Bewell expedition foods. Good tastey meals and reasonably priced. Make a toasty sleeve for the size of the food bag by using the pot cosy kit from r and r backpacking to retain as much heat as possible. Without it, it will be stone cold by the time the food becomes edible!
http://www.bewellexpeditionfoods.com/
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cooki ... QE102.html

[ScotRoutes]

Bookmarked!

[Mike]

Me to looks good

[dlovett]

Thanks Joe, I ad seen the, but was hoping for a lighter/higher cal brand. You also have to cook them in water. So far the best I have found seems to be the Miuntain House brand (http://www.mountainhouse.eu/main-meals/ ... serves-1-3) which has most of the range at over 500kcal per 100g. The Potato and smoked salmon in a creamy dill sauce is 609kcal from. 110g pouch. It is also made by adding hot water rather than cooking in a pot, so I conjunction with your recommended pot covers, it would use less energy/fuel to prepare.

If anybody can suggest any other brands that are better, please let me know.

Cheers

D

[Chew]

To be fair any of these pre-prepared packs are expensive and are not that appetizing, and thats after a full day of riding.

I'd go for a good mix of 'normal' food thats easy to carry/make/cheap. It makes a fun game whilst at the supermarket.

Stuff like Pork Pies and Battenburg are all in the 400kcal/100gram range

[jpw247]

The bags have a fill level on them so you just fire in some hot water, give them a stir and then wait. I know they aren't a full roast or as tastey as the wayfarers but they're great for convenience. When it is chucking it down, pitch black and you've had enough I like the ease and simplicity of them.

[FLV]

Mug shots pasta things.

I think under 100g dry
Yield 250g of food, about 300 kcal I think.

Need a small cooker though

[psling]

Has anyone tried Extreme Food from Alpkit yet? Reasonable(ish) price, 500kcal per serving freeze dried at just over 100g seems good but no idea how it compares in the taste/consistency stakes.

[dlovett]

I've had one of the wayfarer meals the other day as a test and it was very nice. I'm after the least hassle prep wise, high cals and an ok taste, as I don't want to take pots and I'm happy to pay a price premium if they are any good. I've ordered some of the Mountan House meals to try and will order some alp kit ones if they are low prep hassle.

Cheers

D

[adjustablewench]

http://www.nutricia.ie/products/view/calogen springs to mind . . .

But only on presciption and I am guessing it tastes absolutely foul as ive never seen anyone happy to consume the stuff even when it was desperately needed on wards . . .

[dlovett]

Ta wrench, it does look interesting but the Mountain House looks to be slightly more cals for its weight unless I have got my units wrong.

[Mart]

50g fat per 100ml's

[Gari]

http://www.expeditionfoods.com
These are what I use for longer trips, they do a few multi day packs too. I usually get the 7 day one and use what I need, keep what's left for overnighters etc.
Hi energy for winter, standard for the rest.

[Alpinum]

To get o good mix, especially on long trips:

http://www.outdoorfoodshop.de/
http://www.lyophilise.fr/

Expeditionfoods, mountainhouse, Real Turmat, Lyo Food, Mx3 and most Travellunches have always been enjoyable, except for the horrible http://www.expeditionfoods.com/expediti ... ppers.html

I think it's Mx3 (check at lyophilise.fr) that use the most convenient pouches. Most others are good too.

A bit special is Fuzion. They definately (in most cases) are closer to how it comes out of your pan, but the meat chunks are a bit big in some cases - you need to make sure to stir and wait and stir again and wait for about 15-20 min for good rehydration. Be sure to put it some where warm in winter. And they are a bit weak in calories too. Still, good for a change on long trips.

Breakfast: I mix myself some müsli/porridge with whole milk powder - if you struggle to find whole milk powder, the above shops sell that too. Nuts are always good for a supplement of calories.

Then... enter Alpkit:
https://www.alpkit.com/explore/nutrition
Haven't tried it yet.

The only brand that was disappointing in more than one case is trekneat.

[dlovett]

thanks for that the french site looks very good and are a good price even with shipping, I'll order some and post back on what they are like.

Cheers

d

[jBay]

Not dehydrated but tasty and can be eaten cold
lookwhatwefound often on offer in the new year at supermarkets.

not light or high in calories.....
but sometimes I like taste....

[Bearbonesnorm]

I'm with Chew ... once you take in the 'faff factor' then at 400 calories / 100g a pork pie is hard to beat.

[composite]

About 590cals per 100g.



Make these out of it but swap the chocolate spread for peanut butter. http://www.composite-projects.co.uk/201 ... il-food-8/

[Alpinum]

I don't know if the thread opener intends to go on long trips, but that's where I use the freeze dried food mostly and it's also where pies and stuff just won't work.

I can't imagine a pie tasting better than anything freeze dried in the middle of a mutiple weeks trip in the wilderness.

Even a double portion (block) of chinese noodles (ramen stuff) will weigh around 120-160 g and have 450 - 700+ kcal. Take one or two ziplocks to eat from.

There's stuff like Darvida http://www.hug-luzern.ch/product-n198-sD.html that goes well with matured alp cheese and dried meat and mayonaise as a snack on long trips. That's round about 550 kcal, depending on the amount of mayo... I tend to mix that up with fancy food like clifbars, snickers and similar.

I do like pies too, but they're just one of many things to be eaten on the way past villages. Then you also may enter chips, sausages, milk shakes, bananas etc.

About 590cals per 100g.



Make these out of it but swap the chocolate spread for peanut butter. http://www.composite-projects.co.uk/201 ... il-food-8/

+1
Home made energy bars rule

[composite]

+1
Home made energy bars rule

Your girlfriend's home made energy bars have a secret ingredient though right?

[Alpinum]

Wow, you've got a good memory.
We did make them together, but I still believe she put some hard stuff in there behind my back ...

[darbeze]

Have to say, I turned to the venerable pork pie on the BB200. Worked really well. Not ridiculously heavy, tasty, and didn't cause any stomach issues...

Cheese and onion slices too...

I shall use them again in the future...

Si

[dlovett]

It is mainly for overnight trips and two to three day ones like the winter event etc. I head thought about peanut butter and pies, but if possible a hot meal was the preferred option. I have a biolight stove so I can cook proper food, but the freeze dried meals are a lot less hassle, just add hot water, so I don't need any pans or cookng gear, just my mug and spoon. I tried one from Millets the other day, sticky toffee pudding and it was amazing.

So hopefully next week I will have a few more to test and can finalise my menus, but it should be easy to get a hot breakfast at 500-750 cal. With some of the water in a thermos, a hot lunch 1000 cal and another 1000k for dinner. With energy bars/gels etc as well, I should be able to get about 3500-4000 cals a day.

D

[Cheeky Monkey]

Just take the route of polar explorers and eat lard (902 calories per 100g) or butter (717 calories per 100g)

Depending on which one becomes the "bread" in that sandwich you could have up to 2,500 plus calories in one easy to consume lump