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Can this be true ?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 pm
by ericrobo
Waterproof gloves, keep your hands warm in sub zero temperatures
£22.17 only

Why don’t somebody test this ?

http://lyndex.co/E30152

And if they work I’ll get some...

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:06 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I'm not sure it's the bargain you think Eric. These are £2.50.

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Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:09 pm
by Alpinum
Stu beat me to it...

If you want cheap, waterproof gloves get working gloves with latex or PVC coating.
We get them here for a tenner (well... swiss francs).

I used to go through light weight mountaineering gloves by a stupid rate when mixed climbing and dry tooling (yeah... Petzl Ergonomics full of grip tape) and started to use gardening/working gloves instead. They did the job just as good and I had more money for (other) drugs.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:42 pm
by JackT
Showa. Designed for Japanese trawlermen. A step up from Marigolds but the same basic concept.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2270896/r ... 282-gloves

What I really want is a pair of Marigold mitts to put over my Dachsteins when it's raining.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:40 am
by substandard
I’ve been using the stolen goat winter gloves this winter, first pair of gloves I’ve found that actually keep the water out!

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:56 pm
by AndreR
JackT wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:42 pm Showa. Designed for Japanese trawlermen. A step up from Marigolds but the same basic concept.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2270896/r ... 282-gloves

What I really want is a pair of Marigold mitts to put over my Dachsteins when it's raining.
281 Available from Screwfix for £8.99

https://www.screwfix.com/p/showa-281-te ... lsrc=aw.ds

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 pm
by RIP
AndreR wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:56 pm 281 Available from Screwfix for £8.99
Worth a try for a tenner?

"Polyurethane-coated palm.... breathable membrane fixed between coating and liner allows warm air and moisture to escape".

"Level 4 abrasion resistance"

Handy for those occasional IOTBs :smile: .

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:33 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
"Polyurethane-coated palm.... breathable membrane fixed between coating and liner allows warm air and moisture to escape".
How does that work? I'm assuming the poly coating isn't breathable?

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:40 pm
by Al
I bought some from screwfix to try a while a go.
Bought xl hoping for something like an extremities tuff bag I could put over other gloves in crap weather, only with fingers.
Turned out pretty snug - I guess Japanese fishermen have tiny hands?

So they are certainly cheap and unsurprisingly not very breathable. Definitely tougher / gripper than a marigold and pack down very small.

Oh and you look like you’ve got smurf hands.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:41 pm
by RIP
Stu wrote: How does that work? I'm assuming the poly coating isn't breathable?
I asked that in my post too but then deleted it because I thought I was being stupid :grin: . Obviously I wasn't then :-bd . Just been reading up about PU but not much wiser yet.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:41 pm
by JackT
From the review by Andrew Skurka linked to above:

"The defining feature of the 281 and 282 is the textured microporous polyurethane shell, branded as Temres. It’s waterproof and breathable, but the structure seems more like Columbia’s Outdry Extreme, which does not rely on DWR and, in my experience, remains waterproof even after long-term use. The stuff is somewhat breathable, too: On recent one- to two-hour runs in subfreezing temperatures, I noticed no moisture accumulation inside the glove."

The "science bit" from Showa: https://www.showagroup.eu/en/technology/en/temres

No idea if it's true.

I would only expect to wear them for short periods during the heaviest showers that would drench any wool or woven fabric based glove.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:46 am
by Mart
This post has got me perusing the safety catalogues
There must be a brand/model that is

- more like a glove
- Insulative
- Waterproof
- Tough
- cheap (under a tenner)

Is that asking too much?

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:00 am
by Bearbonesnorm
This post has got me perusing the safety catalogues
There must be a brand/model that is

- more like a glove
- Insulative
- Waterproof
- Tough
- cheap (under a tenner)

Is that asking too much?
I bought some Skytec Argon gloves the other week. They have a brushed fleece lining, water resistant body with a waterproof coating over the fingers and palm (some of the back too). They're not bulky, fit well and around £6.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:32 am
by Al
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:00 am
This post has got me perusing the safety catalogues
There must be a brand/model that is

- more like a glove
- Insulative
- Waterproof
- Tough
- cheap (under a tenner)

Is that asking too much?
I bought some Skytec Argon gloves the other week. They have a brushed fleece lining, water resistant body with a waterproof coating over the fingers and palm (some of the back too). They're not bulky, fit well and around £6.
Farmers favourites stu - very warm for doing jobs in crap weather. Water gets in the backs fairly easy though, so not much cop for biking.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:43 am
by psling
I gave up yonks ago trying to find the holy grail of waterproof gloves and ended up with Buffalo Mitts. Not cheap and not waterproof but... they are comfortable when wet and dry very quickly. Dexterity is not brilliant but they are easy-on/easy-off without that clammy, stick-to-your-fingers feeling. Bit like pogies but on your hands rather than your handlebars :grin:

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:06 pm
by Cheeky Monkey
Used these for work and they've been pretty effective, never ridden in them though.

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https://www.screwfix.com/p/uci-aquatek- ... arge/182gx

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:22 pm
by ledburner
I've used rain pogies instead (uninsulated), then I can used any full fingers all year round..
like iow bike gear m as ke. I made mind. <40g pair.

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:19 pm
by benp1
Problem with skytec argons is they are difficult to dry when wet. They're popular with ice climbers because they're cheap, robust and dextrous

Found them ok on the bike, not great

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:24 pm
by Verena
psling wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:43 am I gave up yonks ago trying to find the holy grail of waterproof gloves and ended up with Buffalo Mitts. Not cheap and not waterproof but... they are comfortable when wet and dry very quickly. Dexterity is not brilliant but they are easy-on/easy-off without that clammy, stick-to-your-fingers feeling. Bit like pogies but on your hands rather than your handlebars :grin:
Yep, big fan of buffalo mitts too, for exact same reasons

Re: Can this be true ?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:30 am
by ledburner
Verena wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:24 pm
psling wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:43 am I gave up yonks ago trying to find the holy grail of waterproof gloves and ended up with Buffalo Mitts. Not cheap and not waterproof but... they are comfortable when wet and dry very quickly. Dexterity is not brilliant but they are easy-on/easy-off without that clammy, stick-to-your-fingers feeling. Bit like pogies but on your hands rather than your handlebars :grin:
Yep, big fan of buffalo mitts too, for exact same reasons
Also see Sean's thread.. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18831&p=249492#p249492
I made some rain pogies great for colder season cycling, they're rain & windproof. Uninsulated, bonus they do pack up smaller than inner gloves. They're ideal for flat bar.. I've yet to see if my pattern works with drop bars... I shamesless got the idea from here
https://bikeiowa.com/Review/1730/the-bi ... dam-blake

https://bikeiowa.myshopify.com/products ... 6388804709