is a plus bike designed from the tyres up ?

[jameso]

This purely hypothetical thing isn't at all hypothetical after all is it?

Is the designer based overseas? (Hopes)

[ScotRoutes]

For luggage carrying purposes, I specified a slightly higher BB when getting Brant to design my Pact frame.

[In Reverse]

This purely hypothetical thing isn't at all hypothetical after all is it?

I'm saying nothing

Is the designer based overseas? (Hopes)

They are not, and they're very highly thought of by several people on here which is why they picked up this particular bit of hypothetical custom.

[In Reverse]

For luggage carrying purposes, I specified a slightly higher BB when getting Brant to design my Pact frame.

What was your thinking here?

[ScotRoutes]

For luggage carrying purposes, I specified a slightly higher BB when getting Brant to design my Pact frame.

What was your thinking here?

Ah - higher BB means higher saddle. Wee legs + low saddle + big wheels leaves little space for a seatpack. Of course, there's a reduction in the size of the frame triangle but I rarely use a frame bag anyway so as long as I can fit two 750ml bottles, I don't mind.

Higher BB also results in fewer pedal strikes of course. I take that as a pleasant side-effect.

[In Reverse]

Understood

[FLV]

I hope I don't regret saying this

in this (purely hypothetical) example:

...the designer is indeed a turnip

*or may be not, if they chose a BB drop that worked for 29+ in the first place

Both these. Hope it works out

[pistonbroke]

They are not, and they're very highly thought of by several people on here which is why they picked up this particular bit of hypothetical custom

Purely conjecture Andy but did the designer make any reference to your frame having turnups and a button fly?

[In Reverse]

Purely conjecture Andy but did the designer make any reference to your frame having turnups and a button fly?

Taken an hour to get my head round this Duncan. It isn't him, no.

[pistonbroke]

Ha ha, on reflection I thought I was being a bit cryptic. However his "signature dish" is fag paper tyre clearance and making the chainstays too short. I spent many happy hours grinding lumps off front mechs to make them fit

[In Reverse]

The geo I was asking to partly copy is one of his, including the short chainstays. The handling is razor-sharp because of it but the lean dimensions/overall width on the BB area/rear triangle does give it a bit of lateral flex which is noticeable if you're cornering hard with luggage on the bike...

[DickieH]

If you have a 29+ frame why on earth would you not want to run biggest tyres possible in it?!

[ton]

because you want to ride it on the road sometimes, and dont have the luxury of a roadbike.

[PaulB2]

What about a Vee tyre speedster? They’re basically a 29x2.8 semi-slick

[fatbikephil]

If you have a 29+ frame why on earth would you not want to run biggest tyres possible in it?!

You need Duro Crux's 29 x 3.25. They are bit sluggish on the road but who cares - they look fab and off road the grip is unbelievable.

[lune ranger]

If you have a 29+ frame why on earth would you not want to run biggest tyres possible in it?!

You need Duro Crux's 29 x 3.25. They are bit sluggish on the road but who cares - they look fab and off road the grip is unbelievable.

Yes indeedy. I’ve always run the widest tyreon the widest rim (FatLab 55)Not sure those Crux’s would squeeze on into my 2013 Krampus frame. Maybe only with the rear wheel at the sweet spot in the horizontal drop outs. Could sit one up front though.
Vee do a 3.25 Bulldozer tyre as well but never fancied trying it out having been pretty disappointed with their Trax Fatty.

Having said that. If you’re not riding off road there’s nothing wrong with running narrower rims and tyres. I’ve seen a few folk doing that with ECR’s and Krampus online when they’re doing road/dirt road touring.

Tried to retire my Krampus by moving it’s bits onto my Fargo frame this week but got the jitters and put it all back today having not even ridden the Fargo! Can’t bring myself to loose that 29+ wagon wheeling feeling

....even if it is hard work moving the beast.

I’ve begun lusting after the Fatster Alex Pilkington rides so fast.

[Cheeky Monkey]

because you want to ride it on the road sometimes, and dont have the luxury of a roadbike.

Or

Because you want to.



Though more sensibly, possibly, because it's the bike you've got.

[In Reverse]

What about a Vee tyre speedster? They’re basically a 29x2.8 semi-slick

Are these available anywhere?

[PaulB2]

What about a Vee tyre speedster? They’re basically a 29x2.8 semi-slick

Are these available anywhere?

Just had a quick look around and can't see any actually in stock, so that does put a dampener on the suggestion. Stocks of plus tyres seems to have dropped off the earth.

[fatbikephil]

What about a Vee tyre speedster? They’re basically a 29x2.8 semi-slick

Are these available anywhere?

Just had a quick look around and can't see any actually in stock, so that does put a dampener on the suggestion. Stocks of plus tyres seems to have dropped off the earth.

I'd be giving vee tyres a wide berth. Schwalbe g ones seem to be the got "plus" gravel tyre https://blog.jonesbikes.com/ 2.35's on 55mm rims

[woodsmith]

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[jameso]

The Vee Speedsters appear a bit tougher than G-One 2.35s. I love the G-Ones but they're worryingly thin for anything spiky, yet the thin casing is what makes them so fast in places. I had an amazingly fast, dry, fingers-crossed day on the Ridgeway on my Jones with them on but I felt like I was pushing my luck the whole way over those flints.

The problem with Speedsters is that central strip tread design picks up tiny shards and flints really effectively so though they might be a bit thicker in the casing they still flat more than you might expect - far better tubeless than tubed and expect you'd be using tubeless with +sized version anyway. Good tyres otherwise.

[fatbikephil]

I'd be giving vee tyres a wide berth. Schwalbe g ones seem to be the got "plus" gravel tyre https://blog.jonesbikes.com/riding-grav ... re-widths/ 2.35's on 55mm rims
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Changed it to the blog header page. dunno why t won't let me post the link from the blog itself......

https://blog.jonesbikes.com/