Issue 4 of GravelWanker magazine

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Salsa Cutthroat
Uhm but now you're into needing to define 'gravel bike'. a Cutthroat generally has much larger tyres than your average GW - up to 2.4" I think?
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Bearbonesnorm wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:07 pm
Salsa Cutthroat
Uhm but now you're into needing to define 'gravel bike'. a Cutthroat generally has much larger tyres than your average GW - up to 2.4" I think?
Aha... I'd call that monstercross/mtb. Thanks and makes sense why/how he made very light work of it all (6 minutes stopped time in 7 hours :o
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redefined_cycles wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:19 pm Thanks and makes sense why/how he made very light work of it all (6 minutes stopped time in 7 hours
That was because he is Karl.
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Chased by a cow?

Seriously, 6 min break in 7 hours has nothing to do with the bike. Just his experience mixed with his aim how to ride your route.
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redefined_cycles wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:19 pm
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:07 pm
Salsa Cutthroat
Uhm but now you're into needing to define 'gravel bike'. a Cutthroat generally has much larger tyres than your average GW - up to 2.4" I think?
Aha... I'd call that monstercross/mtb. Thanks and makes sense why/how he made very light work of it all (6 minutes stopped time in 7 hours :o
Like f@Ck am I having any bike of mine called a "MonsterCross". We'll settle on dropped bar mtb thank you
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Re: Issue 4 of GravelWanker magazine

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Dave Barter wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:53 pm
redefined_cycles wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:19 pm
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:07 pm
Salsa Cutthroat
Uhm but now you're into needing to define 'gravel bike'. a Cutthroat generally has much larger tyres than your average GW - up to 2.4" I think?
Aha... I'd call that monstercross/mtb. Thanks and makes sense why/how he made very light work of it all (6 minutes stopped time in 7 hours :o
Like f@Ck am I having any bike of mine called a "MonsterCross". We'll settle on dropped bar mtb thank you
:lol: settled. Was actually thinking of you when Cutthroat came to mind. For some reason I always assume it's the only bike you own :smile:
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I had to justify to someone why I was after another gravelwanker bike when I already had the Singular Gryphon. I *knew* why but I couldn't explain too well so retreated to the blurb that even though it might look similar the Gryphon is a drop barred MTB and not the same as a GW. I suspect I sounded like a bit of a bike-ponce :lol:

TBH I should have just said - look at the tyres (2.6 / 2.4), feel the weight (hefty, despite being rigid and 1x) and funk off :wink:

I toy with the idea of a Ti Gryphon occasionally but the £2k price-tag for F&F compared to, say, a Camino Ti always makes me pause. Only pause like, no doubt I'll do both at some point (poor impulse control) :oops: That and the experience of having been one of the Rooster-Kickstarter backers makes me a bit lairy :lol:
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jobro wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:33 am Your comments are comical. This place is like Singletrack World for old men.
The same self-righteous condemnation for anything outside their niche. Just with slippers.

You could just ignore it if you find it that offensive.
I think you're reading the comments in the wrong way, though that's understandable / the tone of posts is hard to read plus I expect I'm a few pages past that being already pointed out. FWIW my 'aspirational' comment was about how mags portray things.

Edit to add, sometimes I read back what I've written and think I sound like a patronising t***. Not intended
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Bearbonesnorm wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:25 pm
Got any left Stu?
I'll pop you some int' post.
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redefined_cycles wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:00 pm Salsa Cutthroat: Gravel bike or serious off road machine, or 'just' a grvlBike? I only ask cos Karl did the NorthPeaks100 on his so its obviously doable but I wondered whether I made the route too easy (and thus, potentially boring/rubbish)...
Depends what you ride it like. I've ridden* mine down most descents in Hebden Bridge with a different front tyre.




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So is a Gravel Bike a Monstercross lite then or is it a separate category entirely? Labels eh, gotta love 'em! :lol:
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Jurassic wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:45 pm So is a Gravel Bike a Monstercross lite then or is it a separate category entirely? Labels eh, gotta love 'em! :lol:
We too can differentiate between these categories of drop-barred bikes:

audax
randonneur
touring
all-road
gravel
adventure
cyclocross
monstercross
drop-barred mtb

Of course most of these categories have flat-barred versions too which lean perilously close to another category:
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Crikey this thread has been wandering ...
I toy with the idea of a Ti Gryphon occasionally
A titanium Singular Gryphon .... I adore this bike and had a chance to buy one a few years back but really didn't appreciate the whole concept of riding drops on anything other than tarmac. Silly me.
I'm just going outside ...
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I have heard that the "original" Ti Gryphons were plagued with manufacturing issues that caused failures so I would be cautious about those. However, Sam is running limited production windows or something nowadays with a different manufacturer so possibly / probably / hopefully that is all sorted out :cool:

Just looked back at emails "Ti Gryphon is £1550 for the frame and £400 for the Ti fork"

Hhhmmmm

It'd be one way of getting past the supply issues of current gravelwankers.

Must.Stop.Now.

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Circa 2009


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Mulleted Gravel.

Bound to be on trend in 2021
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Would have been improved by a Conti Vert Pro tbh
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Can you get the stickers in WH Smith too?

I would actually like some!!!
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Can you get the stickers in WH Smith too?
I believe they'll be included with issue 5.
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ScotRoutes wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:35 pm Circa 2009


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Mulleted Gravel.

Bound to be on trend in 2021
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Love the idea. You could be on something there. Just give the industry enough time. Mullet works really well in quite a few trail biking instances and seeing how technologies drip down from mtb to gravel and even road, it's just a question of time until it becomes actively advertised for gravel bikes.
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Re: Issue 4 of GravelWanker magazine

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Bearbonesnorm wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:16 pm
Can you get the stickers in WH Smith too?
I believe they'll be included with issue 5.
Sign me up!!! So I get stickers and kindling for getting the bothy fire going? Winner!
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