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Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by macinblack » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:14 pm

Back on the 2015 BB200, me and Steve NITB were bimbling along when a massive bird of prey came over the tops. I immediately thought Golden Eagle but we mused that they were instinct in Wales but couldn't really think what else it was. We weren't as high as a kite and bird watching definitely isn't a hobby of mine and so I've often pondered on what that bird was.
Today I was watching the Last Wilderness of Wales and lo and behold, there's Iolo Williams in the Cambrians with his beady eye on a Golden Eagle. Apparently it escaped from captivity around ten years ago.

Case closed.

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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by Bearbonesnorm » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:17 pm

I knew there was one somewhere but I've never seen it. I believe there's another further south too.
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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by faustus » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:56 am

Good stuff, never knew that! I'll watch the programme at some point, but the title does the classic thing of using 'wild' or 'wilderness' to sell a programme in the listings. It's a particular beef I have with the misuse of this word; and the Cambrians are many wonderful things, but it ain't wilderness. It's just few people live there, is all. The impact of humans is everywhere to see in that 'wilderness'. :???:

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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by tobasco » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:54 am

faustus wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:56 am
The impact of humans is everywhere to see in that 'wilderness'. :???:
If it’s lack of human impact that defines wilderness, I doubt there is any left on the planet.

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Post by faustus » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:16 pm

Some could argue that for sure. But on the spectrum of human influence on the landscape and the extent to which nature is free to impose itself, there aren't any areas in the UK that could be said to fit even a loose definition of wilderness. There's a common trait for culture to use the term freely but improperly, and it needs to be used properly in order to understand what nature and landscape is in the UK. As the wonderful Kathleen Jamie said about areas of Scotland where few people live: " ‘wilderness’ seems an affront to those many generations who took their living on that land." Same goes for the Cambrians.

Anyway sorry, it's a thread hijack and this is probably lockdown fever venting itself...

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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by redefined_cycles » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:28 pm

I keep coming to this thread in the hope someone's (off here) managed to take a snap of an eagle (any)... Its somethibg that really excites me. I once saw a buzzard on a commute (thanks to bob for realising that's what it was) and as I scrambled for the phone camera from opposite bush it did a 'para' dive a flew off low... Almost ripped my shirt trying to get in the bush to see out to the field...

Coolest, most indifferent/sedate looking bird I've ever seen (the buzzard) and hope one day to see summat bigger (in the great outdoors/naturally)...
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Post by psling » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:08 pm

I am sad to say that there are reports out today that the eagle has been found dead ☹️
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Post by RIP » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:30 pm

Aye just heard on t'wireless. RIP :sad: . Foul play we wonder?
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Post by UnderTheRadars » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:45 pm

50p says poisoned by some fluffy bunny of a gamekeeper
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Post by Lazarus » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:51 pm

it is almost always human foul play as they have no predators
Almost always poisioning from commercial sites that breed birds so folk can shoot them
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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by Bearbonesnorm » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:56 pm

That is very sad news. It also saddens me that keeping a secret or quiet about something, even when it's for the greater good, is something many people seem to struggle with these days ... had the eagle not featured on telly, would it still be alive?
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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by Landslide » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:30 pm

I suspect that if foul play has been involved, it would not have been targeted solely at the eagle.

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Post by psling » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:44 pm

The body has been recovered so no doubt an autopsy will be carried out the results of which will hopefully be made public. I don't know what the usual lifespan of a golden eagle is or what age this particular one was; look forward to more details.
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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by psling » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:47 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:56 pm
That is very sad news. It also saddens me that keeping a secret or quiet about something, even when it's for the greater good, is something many people seem to struggle with these days ... had the eagle not featured on telly, would it still be alive?
I do wonder this too.
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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by Bearbonesnorm » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:17 pm

I suspect that if foul play has been involved, it would not have been targeted solely at the eagle.
Aye poison is indiscriminate but it's not the only way to kill a bird.
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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by macinblack » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:21 pm

:cry:

They live for about 30 years. I hope it wasn't foul play but a thread on the other place about raptors doesn't bode well.

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Post by RIP » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 pm

"The eagle was collected by a fellow member of Iolo's television crew who has ensured its registration in the Wildlife Incident Investigation Scheme run by the Welsh Government."

"While the cause of its death is unknown, Mr [Iolo] Williams said it was "quite an old bird", around 16, and he did not think there was any foul play".

As you say, we'll find out soon enough.
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Post by Ian » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:32 pm

I think that eagle might be the same bird that used to belong to Charlie Watkins Williams Wynn, who lives near Abergwesyn. I’ve got a photo of it somewhere sat on a fence post in Nant yr Hwch forest. They’re quite big birds close up! Never saw it after that day, though.

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Post by RIP » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:28 am

Wow, lucky Ian! I'll bet that was a gobsmacking experience :smile: . Possibly a bit trouser-compromising too?
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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by HUX » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:14 am

Ian, Im pretty sure thats the bird that me and mike saw a few years back at the bottom of the devils staircase. Big old bird close up :shock:

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Re: Cambrian Eagle Mystery Solved

Post by Lazarus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:36 am

all birds of prey are
i once got felled by a BUzzard

Rounded a corner on the road Buzzard in road eating a rabbit Buzzard takes off towards me -heading straight at my head - Its miles bigger than your head with wings out and talons forward
I can still picture it now about 12 " from my face - very scary,
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Post by Cheeky Monkey » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:43 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Hosk ... g%20blind.

I remember this bloke being on Blue Peter when I was a kid and telling the story of how an owl *took* his eye.

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Post by Bearbonesnorm » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:23 pm

I remember this bloke being on Blue Peter when I was a kid and telling the story of how an owl *took* his eye.
My mum nearly lost an eye to Teapot the eagle owl. She looked liked Kirk Douglas for a year or so.
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Post by whitestone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 pm

For a while there was a pair of Eagle Owls who would nest near Dunsop Bridge - they had to close the footpath that ran close to the nest as the pair were so territorial they'd attack anyone who came near. Eagle Owls are bloody big birds as well.

Raptors with prey are very possessive - I was doing a sportive that went over the Cross o' Greet in the Bowland hills and there was a Peregrine sat in the road with its kill just eying the hundreds of cyclists going past as if to say "come near me and I'll have you!" It really wasn't for moving out of the way.
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Post by RIP » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:20 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:23 pm
I remember this bloke being on Blue Peter when I was a kid and telling the story of how an owl *took* his eye.
My mum nearly lost an eye to Teapot the eagle owl. She looked liked Kirk Douglas for a year or so.
I don't think you ever did tell us why "Teapot" - apart from the obvious that teapots are often beautiful things to look at and perfectly suited to their task - an orphan that you raised in the protection of a teapot?
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