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What's This Structure?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:56 pm
by Escape Goat
I rode past this on the Pennine Trail. There looks like a there was some sort of house type building a little way up the hill.

I know there's loads of old farms and farm houses along the way, but I wasn't sure about this.

I thought it may have been a log storage, but seams a bit over built for that.

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Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:03 pm
by whitestone
It's a lime kiln. Basically a big fire with limestone blocks sat on top. Once the fire has died down you are left with lime which is used on acidic land as an improver.

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:27 pm
by Escape Goat
That's brilliant. Thanks so much.

So deffo not a pizza oven then...

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:07 am
by ootini
There's some monstrous jobbies near me. Will try to get some pics to share

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:46 am
by Escape Goat
Id like to see them if you could.

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:04 am
by GregMay
Lots in the Dales. Usually a lot of shake holes near by too.

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:21 am
by whitestone
If you are ever passing Langcliffe, just up the road from Settle, have a look at the Hoffman kiln there - https://www.yorkshire-dales.com/hoffman-kiln.html.

The lime kilns you see dotted around the countryside were "charge, fire, empty" in use whereas the Hoffman kiln was a continuous process - the kiln is shaped like an athletics track and the fire would work its way round with workers on the leading side of the fire adding more material while those at the back would remove the lime.

The kiln isn't obvious to find. Head from Settle towards Horton, you cross over the Settle-Carlisle railway in Langcliffe then about 500m later there's a stone works on the left. Just after this a lane goes off to the right under the railway. Take this which leads to a parking place by some houses - the kiln is about 100m ahead.

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:47 am
by BigdummySteve
You’d get a lot of sleeping mats in there :-bd

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:22 am
by whitestone
BigdummySteve wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:47 am You’d get a lot of sleeping mats in there :-bd
I did suggest it to Chew for the winter bivy :grin:

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:36 pm
by frogatthefarriers
whitestone wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:21 am If you are ever passing Langcliffe, just up the road from Settle, have a look at the Hoffman kiln there - https://www.yorkshire-dales.com/hoffman-kiln.html.
We have one of these in a disused quarry near Minera, north-east of Wrexham and due east of Llandegla trail centre. The last time I was there the doors had been blocked off (easily by-passed) to protect the bats roosting there.
BigdummySteve wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:47 am You’d get a lot of sleeping mats in there :-bd
I’ve often thought this - dry, flat, no problem with wind. Winner!

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:47 am
by Escape Goat
Whitestone, that looks really good, I'll certainly check it out one day.

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:22 am
by ootini
Escape Goat wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:46 am Id like to see them if you could.
Sorry I'd forgotten about this. I'll get some proper ones soon, but this is from a previous trip.

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Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:26 am
by Cheeky Monkey
whitestone wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:21 am If you are ever passing Langcliffe, just up the road from Settle, have a look at the Hoffman kiln there - https://www.yorkshire-dales.com/hoffman-kiln.html.

The lime kilns you see dotted around the countryside were "charge, fire, empty" in use whereas the Hoffman kiln was a continuous process - the kiln is shaped like an athletics track and the fire would work its way round with workers on the leading side of the fire adding more material while those at the back would remove the lime.

The kiln isn't obvious to find. Head from Settle towards Horton, you cross over the Settle-Carlisle railway in Langcliffe then about 500m later there's a stone works on the left. Just after this a lane goes off to the right under the railway. Take this which leads to a parking place by some houses - the kiln is about 100m ahead.
Is it still being looked after Bob? I had a project for Yorkshire Forward years ago to get permission to develop the old buildings around it for start-up businesses which was supposed to generate some revenue to support upkeep and maintenance of the kiln. My involvement stopped when YF got axed though and I've never had chance to go back up.

Re: What's This Structure?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:55 am
by whitestone
Cheeky Monkey wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:26 am
whitestone wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:21 am If you are ever passing Langcliffe, just up the road from Settle, have a look at the Hoffman kiln there - https://www.yorkshire-dales.com/hoffman-kiln.html.

The lime kilns you see dotted around the countryside were "charge, fire, empty" in use whereas the Hoffman kiln was a continuous process - the kiln is shaped like an athletics track and the fire would work its way round with workers on the leading side of the fire adding more material while those at the back would remove the lime.

The kiln isn't obvious to find. Head from Settle towards Horton, you cross over the Settle-Carlisle railway in Langcliffe then about 500m later there's a stone works on the left. Just after this a lane goes off to the right under the railway. Take this which leads to a parking place by some houses - the kiln is about 100m ahead.
Is it still being looked after Bob? I had a project for Yorkshire Forward years ago to get permission to develop the old buildings around it for start-up businesses which was supposed to generate some revenue to support upkeep and maintenance of the kiln. My involvement stopped when YF got axed though and I've never had chance to go back up.
Dunno. I think it's under the auspices of English Heritage (or whatever they are called these days). The information boards around the site also talk of other types of kilns and processes - Triple Draw Kilns and a Spencer Kilns. https://www.visitsettle.co.uk/craven-lime-works.html