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Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:08 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Are the effects / benefits in terms of grip, comfort, ride quality less noticable on a small diameter tyre?


I've discovered my barrow has a puncture, do I just repair the tube or go tubeless while I've got it apart? Will going tubeless afford greater grip when pushing it up a plank when full of gravel?

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:21 am
by RIP
Likewise when pushing it up some gravel full of planks?

#gravelbarrow

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:24 am
by ScotRoutes
RIP wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 8:21 am
#gravelbarrow
I reckon that's the name of the next Salsa.

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:48 am
by jaminb
I tried to turn my daughters bike tubeless yesterday (lock down boredom /weight saving/puncture resistance) but the wheels are schrader valves (same as a barrow).

Normal tubeless presta valves wouldn't fill the rim hole so I chopped out the valve an old inner schrader tube, all good seating the tyre but when I went to pump up with the normal pump the valve pushed in - any ideas how to lock into place without a lock ring or can you buy schrader valve stems with lock rings? thanks

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:51 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Normal tubeless presta valves wouldn't fill the rim hole so I chopped out the valve an old inner schrader tube, all good seating the tyre but when I went to pump up with the normal pump the valve pushed in - any ideas how to lock into place without a lock ring or can you buy schrader valve stems with lock rings? thanks
You can buy tubeless versions. You can also do as you've done but fix the valve in place with silicone sealer and put your tape over the top.

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:51 am
by redefined_cycles
jaminb wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 8:48 am I tried to turn my daughters bike tubeless yesterday (lock down boredom /weight saving/puncture resistance) but the wheels are schrader valves (same as a barrow).

Normal tubeless presta valves wouldn't fill the rim hole so I chopped out the valve an old inner schrader tube, all good seating the tyre but when I went to pump up with the normal pump the valve pushed in - any ideas how to lock into place without a lock ring or can you buy schrader valve stems with lock rings? thanks
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N5DM0TK? ... th=1&psc=1

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:53 am
by ScotRoutes
Leave a big bit of inner tube around the valve - big enough that the bead of the tyre prevents it from moving?

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:55 am
by redefined_cycles
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 8:08 am Are the effects / benefits in terms of grip, comfort, ride quality less noticable on a small diameter tyre?


I've discovered my barrow has a puncture, do I just repair the tube or go tubeless while I've got it apart? Will going tubeless afford greater grip when pushing it up a plank when full of gravel?
Stu. I've been running tubeless on my road bike as far back as when they only actually had one (or 2 if you count Hutchinson) tubeless compatible tyre and hardly any hardware specific to road setups (not sure what such hardware would be but I did make a few adaptations mainly due to the higher pressures used).

I'd say, yes, you defo feel the extra benefit and even more so with you fat tyres (in comparison to road tyres). I went from 80ish psi to 60ish and there's a marked increased in comfort etc etc

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:11 am
by psling
Whichever way you go Stu, just make sure the tyre is perfectly round. You may spend ages trying to work out why stoves aren't working quite right after you've transported them in a wheelbarrow with a wonky wheel :wink: :grin:

[gleaned from a tale you told once upon a time]

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:20 am
by jaminb
thanks all - will try sticks like shxt before resorting to buying new valves

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:23 am
by Bearbonesnorm
will try sticks like shxt before resorting to buying new valves
No - you want silicone. SLS doesn't have enough flex once dry.

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:03 am
by fatbikephil
Stu you are barking up the wrong tree, solid is the answer! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PU-Black-14- ... SwnMRdCy0E
Turned my barry into a race killer!

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:13 am
by faustus
Think it'll only feel faster if it's a tan wall barrow tyre. That's what all the #barrow@nkers have...

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 1:18 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I've decided to go with a tube repair for now but with a view to a carbon rim upgrade later.

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:09 pm
by composite
#barrowwanker

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:18 pm
by jaminb
noted thanks Stu

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 3:15 pm
by jay91
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 1:18 pm I've decided to go with a tube repair for now but with a view to a carbon rim upgrade later.

What psi for gravel??? :lol:

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 3:22 pm
by PaulB2
Do you change tyres for dry conditions?

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 3:41 pm
by psling
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 1:18 pm I've decided to go with a tube repair for now but with a view to a carbon rim upgrade later.
Have you got clearance for a bigger diameter wheel; it'll roll so much better and make the plank come alive. Maybe modify the 'barrow to take a boost axle while you're at it :cool:

Re: Tubeless Q.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:47 am
by BigdummySteve
To honest stu you really should just go full custom. Upgrading the wheels on a standard frame? You can’t make silk purse out of a pig’s ear, I’d use your contacts and get spondon to knock you up something fitting, perhaps a full trellis frame in polished aluminium and then you’ll see the benefits of your wheels upgrades.

P.S Didn’t Spondon make Steve Burns a wheelchair back in the day?