Single Speed Help...
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- Escape Goat
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Single Speed Help...
On bumpy ground, with good/correct chain tension, the chain pulls off the rear cog under pressure . It's from a cassette actually, so not proper SS. Chain line is perfect.
Nothing is worn.
Anyone shed any light on this?
Thanks!
Nothing is worn.
Anyone shed any light on this?
Thanks!
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- Bearbonesnorm
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Re: Single Speed Help...
Could be that the 'cog' is actually turning slightly on the splines. I'd get a proper SS cog and try that (not a crap pressed one but something with a nice wide base such as Surly)It's from a cassette actually,
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Re: Single Speed Help...
^thisBearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 12:08 pmCould be that the 'cog' is actually turning slightly on the splines. I'd get a proper SS cog and try that (not a crap pressed one but something with a nice wide base such as Surly)It's from a cassette actually,
Re: Single Speed Help...
As they've both said, it's probably the cog twisting. I see you were asking for spacers in the classifieds as you are using plastic ones? Which wont be helping. Have you got a ss lockring or are you using one off a cassette? The ss one has a wider flange to seat on the spacers. The best solution is just to buy a kit, something like this
https://www.bikemonger.co.uk/bikemonger ... -219-p.asp
And use a proper wide base cog, I use the Surly ones.
https://www.bikemonger.co.uk/surly-cass ... -191-p.asp
Pricey but top quality and don't damage your freewheel. I've got a brand new Halo 15t one but it needs an 1/8 chain, but if you are running a chain that wide and want a cog that small let me know and I'll do you a good deal
https://www.bikemonger.co.uk/bikemonger ... -219-p.asp
And use a proper wide base cog, I use the Surly ones.
https://www.bikemonger.co.uk/surly-cass ... -191-p.asp
Pricey but top quality and don't damage your freewheel. I've got a brand new Halo 15t one but it needs an 1/8 chain, but if you are running a chain that wide and want a cog that small let me know and I'll do you a good deal
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Re: Single Speed Help...
Are you using a chain tensioner? Do you have 'full' chain wrap on the cog/sprocket? Ideally the chain should engage with at least half the teeth on the sprocket.
This pic (which I grabbed at random) shows the wrong way. Less than 30% of teeth engaged!
This pic (which I grabbed at random) shows the wrong way. Less than 30% of teeth engaged!
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Re: Single Speed Help...
These are worth a punt Allen, just as long as you want 21t
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/SKOOSSGA/ ... d-sprocket
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/SKOOSSGA/ ... d-sprocket
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Re: Single Speed Help...
I’ve never Correctly tensioned a SS, I’ve always put it on tight and never had a chain jump like that.
I’ve tried using a cassette once to find the right SS gear for my fat bike but gave up on that idea after a day or so (the cassette) as it jumped off frequently.
As Stu says, stick with a proper SS cog
I’ve tried using a cassette once to find the right SS gear for my fat bike but gave up on that idea after a day or so (the cassette) as it jumped off frequently.
As Stu says, stick with a proper SS cog
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Re: Single Speed Help...
Brilliant. I know the ins and out when there's more than one gear. But single is new to me.
I've managed to get a wide one sorted out from my post in classifieds, really happy now.
Thanks chaps, when this is installed with non plastic bb spacers I'll let you know how I get on.
Thanks all
I've managed to get a wide one sorted out from my post in classifieds, really happy now.
Thanks chaps, when this is installed with non plastic bb spacers I'll let you know how I get on.
Thanks all
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Having had it happen when cranking up a hill many years ago - you don't want it slipping when it's under a lot of power.
Crotch + stem interface is not ideal.
Wide SS cog, preferably steel, metal spacers - perfect chainline.
Welcome to the SS club, it's simple and painful at the same time.
Crotch + stem interface is not ideal.
Wide SS cog, preferably steel, metal spacers - perfect chainline.
Welcome to the SS club, it's simple and painful at the same time.
Re: Single Speed Help...
Interesting.
I would've guessed the obvious (slack chain, bad chainline) as I've been there myself. Especially with the chainline, when I thought it was okay but needing a second adjustment.
Also frame flex, not so obvious and rather unlikely.
But I learned something new regarding running ssp on a regular cassette. For me the only reason for a wide cog up 'till now was only down to it not chewing into the freehub body. Well, now I know better. So thanks also from my side.
As Greg wrote; welcome to the party. A lovely way to engange the riding a little bit more.
I learned quite a bit when I started ssp'ing. Stuff I can also put to good use when riding geared.
I would've guessed the obvious (slack chain, bad chainline) as I've been there myself. Especially with the chainline, when I thought it was okay but needing a second adjustment.
Also frame flex, not so obvious and rather unlikely.
But I learned something new regarding running ssp on a regular cassette. For me the only reason for a wide cog up 'till now was only down to it not chewing into the freehub body. Well, now I know better. So thanks also from my side.
As Greg wrote; welcome to the party. A lovely way to engange the riding a little bit more.
I learned quite a bit when I started ssp'ing. Stuff I can also put to good use when riding geared.
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Re: Single Speed Help...
What frame you using for that EG?
Velosolo are a good source of sproks - same as Surly but a bit cheaper.
Next question - what gear ratio?!
Velosolo are a good source of sproks - same as Surly but a bit cheaper.
Next question - what gear ratio?!
Re: Single Speed Help...
Just to add, cassette sprockets are designed to let the chain fall off, if they weren't then you wouldn't be able to shift. A single cog from a cassette is narrow where it fits on the hub, the Surly ones recommended above are more than twice the width at the hub, this reduces the damage a narrow cog does to the hub splines and also stops the cog distorting. Lastly, Surly cogs aren't cheap so be sure you know what size you need, they also like 9 speed chains.
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I've being using the halo fat foot ss cogs for about 4 years never had issue with them cheaper than the surly ones
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/cassettes/1 ... -sprocket/
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/cassettes/1 ... -sprocket/
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Re: Single Speed Help...
So as its flat around here I used 40 x 17.great for 90% local. May change to 36 as I've got hold of a 16 wide ...
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Re: Single Speed Help...
Thats a big gear - I use 36/18 on the g***** bike and 32/21 on the two 29+'s
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Its not a big gear, its a MASSIVE gear
32:20 for me.
32:20 for me.
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Currently 32:18 here. It's my first ever attempt at SS so I was wanting to play it safe. I reckon 32:16 would be fine as long as I select my routes carefully, and only once I've restored some level of fitness.
(this is all on 26" wheels)
(this is all on 26" wheels)
Re: Single Speed Help...
It's not that bigger gear if you're somewhere flat-ish, i live in Breckland, so the part of Norfolk where it is actually rolling not flat, and run 42/15 on gravel bike with 45c tyres and 46 (oval)/15 on road bike with 28c tyres.
I find it's actually more difficult singlespeeding somewhere flattish as you're constantly pedalling and as it's flat-ish you need a gear you can get up the off road slopes on but that you don't just simply spin like a loon on the flat tarmac sections.
I find it's actually more difficult singlespeeding somewhere flattish as you're constantly pedalling and as it's flat-ish you need a gear you can get up the off road slopes on but that you don't just simply spin like a loon on the flat tarmac sections.
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If it's flat no reason why not :) I would never dare take this to the lakes though.
I will have to change to 36 soon to fit an oval on there, so 36 x 16 it will be. For now.
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Very true, you never get a break.find it's actually more difficult singlespeeding somewhere flattish as you're constantly pedalling and as it's flat-ish you need a gear you can get up the off road slopes on but that you don't just simply spin like a loon on the flat tarmac sections.
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