Jamesh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:38 am Also I wonder if horse riders are having these discussions!?

I bet there are a lot of long faces at the moment in that bunch

Jamesh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:36 am .......

I really wish the Gov would move away from advice/recommendations/grey areas and just state what is absolutely necessary. Perhaps this isn't so clear or just coming over the horizon (ie next week) Most of my friends run hospitality shaped business so feel for them a lot

UK Govt have taken a voluntary approach because they want the public to own the problem and act accordingly rather than wait to be told, but I suspect you are right, they will start enforcing distancing measures before long.

Blimey there are some people on here with far greater challenges than me. Very sobering and massive respect. I will continue to ride solo with care until told not to.

wriggles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:19 am

Jamesh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:38 am Also I wonder if horse riders are having these discussions!?

I bet there are a lot of long faces at the moment in that bunch

Take a bow sir...

UK Govt have taken a voluntary approach because they want the public to own the problem and act accordingly rather than wait to be told,

I'm all for the powers taking a back seat in most cases but in this instance they've left decision making to the media both professional and amateur and it appears that approach isn't working very well

Blimey there are some people on here with far greater challenges than me. Very sobering and massive respect

Ditto to that... Massive respect

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:33 am

UK Govt have taken a voluntary approach because they want the public to own the problem and act accordingly rather than wait to be told,

I'm all for the powers taking a back seat in most cases but in this instance they've left decision making to the media both professional and amateur and it appears that approach isn't working very well

I thought about this yesterday on way back from work... can you imagine the panic it would have caused which might have been arguably worse than where we are right not. Shops would/might have been raided already and we may have been at 'madmax' stage already

Hence letting people own the problem and do one stage at a time may (I'm not saying it is/was as I'm no expert) have been the better option! I tried to start owning the problem and last week rode locally instead of risking being on a train out of Landon!... It is what it is I suppose and we just gotta do our bit as well as brace ourselves and try to like Sean (from the island) said, minimise the risk of needing hospital treatment ourselves for things that might have been in our control (I'm not saying stop riding btw and I guess everyone has to weigh up their risks and what they do... well, maybe the gravity riders that regularly break a clavicle might be wise to abstain )

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:15 am

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:33 am

UK Govt have taken a voluntary approach because they want the public to own the problem and act accordingly rather than wait to be told,

I'm all for the powers taking a back seat in most cases but in this instance they've left decision making to the media both professional and amateur and it appears that approach isn't working very well

I thought about this yesterday on way back from work... can you imagine the panic it would have caused which might have been arguably worse than where we are right not. Shops would/might have been raided already and we may have been at 'madmax' stage already

Except the Home Secretary was being interviewed this morning and was asked that very question. His response was the usual deflection tactics and bluster that you get from politicians when they can't answer the question or the answer is too awkward or reflects badly on themselves. (sorry, getting a bit STW here, have a smiley )

whitestone » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:28 am

Except the Home Secretary was being interviewed this morning and was asked that very question. His response

Blimey is Pritti Patel a bloke

wriggles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:32 am

whitestone » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:28 am

Except the Home Secretary was being interviewed this morning and was asked that very question. His response

Blimey is Pritti Patel a bloke

My mistake - the TV was partly hidden and just saw ... secretary. Forget PP was at the Home Office.

wriggles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:19 am

Jamesh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:38 am Also I wonder if horse riders are having these discussions!?

I bet there are a lot of long faces at the moment in that bunch

Oh... No....

Escape Goat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:41 am

wriggles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:19 am

Jamesh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:38 am Also I wonder if horse riders are having these discussions!?

I bet there are a lot of long faces at the moment in that bunch

Oh... No....

Here all week etc etc

Wouldn't usually put up a vid from healthcare stuff. But this one might be beneficial for this thread and help people understand/make best decisions...

https://youtu.be/MoisrCTu0SY

https://youtu.be/3x1aLAw_xkY

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:33 am

UK Govt have taken a voluntary approach because they want the public to own the problem and act accordingly rather than wait to be told,

I'm all for the powers taking a back seat in most cases but in this instance they've left decision making to the media both professional and amateur and it appears that approach isn't working very well

There's behavioural science behind it Stu - doing things by stages ("we advise against" into "we are asking people not to" into "nobody is allowed to") means that the number of people doing that thing gradually increases and it's much less of a culture shock than just banging it straight in.

There's behavioural science behind it Stu - doing things by stages ("we advise against" into "we are asking people not to" into "nobody is allowed to") means that the number of people doing that thing gradually increases and it's much less of a culture shock than just banging it straight in.

I can see that and it makes sense but their diluted message seems to have left the door wide open for every tinfoil hat wearing nutter and hand-wringing doom monger.

Fair one - I guess behavioural science hasn't quite caught up with all the nuances of internet populations yet.

I had an otherwise normal and intelligent bloke tell me at work last week that Bill Gates owns the patent for coronavirus and I "need to do some research". His wife has recently left him.

I shouldn't laugh I suppose - I've never even had a wife.

Not a lot of people realise that 'billgates' is an anagram of 'coronavirus'. It's true that is. I read it somewhere I think.

Careful Reg, he doesn't like that sort of thing.

If you're not careful, he'll have you by the legal bits

There's probably a giant rotating flashing red alarm light on top of his desktop going off as we speak and lots of heavy blokes jumping into heli gunships but don't worry they won't find me as I'm in lockdown and they

>sudden ominous silence<

Well, the schools are closed from Friday for the majority of kids.

My son is not happy about having to go for another couple of days. Evidently it was "pointless going today"...

RIP wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:15 pm Not a lot of people realise that 'billgates' is an anagram of 'coronavirus'. It's true that is. I read it somewhere I think.

Legal bits is also an anagram of Bill Gates

got home today already on std hours ,unusual for us, had an email telling us don't go to work tomorrow or fri and next week as well, we are getting paid but, I don't think there will be many places open for a trip out on the bicycle or motorbike, what a lot of people forget is if you become a casualty it will impact on a already overstretched medical service so they won't be very sympathetic.

In Reverse wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:28 pm I had an otherwise normal and intelligent bloke tell me at work last week that Bill Gates owns the patent for coronavirus and I "need to do some research".

Research-
https://patents.google.com/?q=virus&inventor=Bill+Gates

This however, 'microsoft' and 'virus' = loads ...

Sobering.

My comment -

"...I meant that at the moment it's ok to be outdoors in the UK, for me solo riding, gently in a safe way on easy trails I ride 4x a week isn't raising risks."

An Italian rider from TNR, living in the north -

This is wrong. You in the UK will understand it , as we did here, when people start dying several hundreds per day and hospitals won't be able to manage it. I'm just trying to share our "experience".

I'd stick to my opinion about risk levels, but relative importance of riding and how we all might go about minimising any risk might well change as time goes on. I mean, I understand the benefits to well being but also I can imagine feeling bad that I'm able to even consider a nice morning ride in the middle of a far worse surrounding situation than we have at the moment.

K1100T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:07 pm My son is not happy about having to go for another couple of days. Evidently it was "pointless going today"...

My daughter is gutted, she loves school

We may be ok though as we have a nurse in the family, so we’ll see what happens