Seat pack for limited rear tyre clearance

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Seat pack for limited rear tyre clearance

Post by ootini » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:06 pm

The wife has a Marin hardtail MTB and has, up to now, been using a rack with panniers due to having the saddle quite low, due to her being a short arse.
This is heavy, clunky and a potential point of catastrophic failure. It also looks crap.
What are my options for a rear saddle bag / holster that requires less exposed seat post, and is longer rather than deeper, to avoid tyre contact ?

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Re: Seat pack for limited rear tyre clearance

Post by sean_iow » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:17 pm

My Apidura one sits quite high

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But I have made an extra strap which holds it up and stops it slipping down the seatpost, which keeps it more horizontal.

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How room do you have?
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Post by mikehowarth » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:31 pm

We've had similar issues with my girlfriends set up - 5ft 1 (just) and rides an XS frame running 27.5 x 2.6 tyres leaves very minimal tyre clearance between the seat pack.

Generally we've found an Apidura seat pack like Sean's to work well, it does have to be cinched high and tight, works well on all but the roughest ground, in that case I've added another Voile strap to give it a bit more rigidity.

It works for us, as we don't do a lot of technical riding together, if we were to in the future, I'd maybe look at something like the Porcelain Rocket Mr Fusion, or keep running a rack and micro panniers.

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Post by Bearbonesnorm » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:41 pm

How much capacity do you want / would you like?
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Post by whitestone » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:43 pm

Cath uses an Alpkit something or other, think it's the Koala. But, she also has a Mudhugger mudguard fitted so it can't touch the tyre. She's 5' 2" and generally rides a Stooge so a 29er.

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Post by BigdummySteve » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:55 pm

Porcelain rocket Mr fusion, with it’s mini rack it just does not move. It also has the bonus of being a holster type and drybag is removeable :-bd
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Post by ootini » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:50 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:41 pm
How much capacity do you want / would you like?
Good question. 8l would be nice.

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Post by ootini » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:51 pm

BigdummySteve wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:55 pm
Porcelain rocket Mr fusion, with it’s mini rack it just does not move. It also has the bonus of being a holster type and drybag is removeable :-bd
Where's the Porcelain rocket gear available from in the UK?

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Post by mikehowarth » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:56 pm

PR is only available direct from Canada.

Email Scott and he'll be able to get something over to you, I've ordered a lot of gear from him over the years, top guy and the best quality bikepacking gear you'll buy in my opinion.

Only thing to factor in is customs duty, I've been fairly lucky over the years :-bd

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Post by Alexinthepeaks » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:08 pm

I just got an email from Apidura, they have today released one for a dropper post which is 6litres

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Re: Seat pack for limited rear tyre clearance

Post by ootini » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:09 pm

Alexinthepeaks wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:08 pm
I just got an email from Apidura, they have today released one for a dropper post which is 6litres
Yeah I saw that, but it's also £125....

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Post by Bearbonesnorm » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:24 pm

Would one of the smaller Exo-rail packs from Alpkit be any good?

or a PDW Bindle rack?

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Post by ootini » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:35 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:24 pm

or a PDW Bindle rack?

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Now that looks interesting. Is it basically a mini, saddle suspended rack for strapping a.n.other dry bag too ?

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Post by sean_iow » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:45 pm

ootini wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:09 pm
Yeah I saw that, but it's also £125....
It's only £92 if you don't need the dropper adapter, which works out at £15 per litre :grin:
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Post by ScotRoutes » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:10 pm

Revelate do a small one.

I have an Ortlieb which is (IIRC) 4 litres. I've used that with a dropper post on a full suspension frame.

Defiant have a special version for the wheel clearance problem.

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Post by Bearbonesnorm » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:12 pm

Is it basically a mini, saddle suspended rack for strapping a.n.other dry bag too ?
Yeah kind of. It pivots at the bottom but unlike a rack the load is suspended from the saddle rails like a seatpack. I've never tried one but i have heard people say that they're good when tyre clearance is limited.
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Post by mikehowarth » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:21 pm

Good find Stu - looks really interesting :ugeek:

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Post by ScotRoutes » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:23 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:12 pm
Is it basically a mini, saddle suspended rack for strapping a.n.other dry bag too ?
Yeah kind of. It pivots at the bottom but unlike a rack the load is suspended from the saddle rails like a seatpack. I've never tried one but i have heard people say that they're good when tyre clearance is limited.
I know I'll be banned for this but I've wondered about the possibility of fitting some mini panniers to that (assuming I could stop them swinging into the wheel)

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Post by whitestone » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:29 pm

A variation on that PDW item is the Arkle Randonneur (I think that's what it's called), fits via a clamp to the saddle rails with a small collar at the top of the seat post. Again here's Cath modelling it

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Post by RIP » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:38 pm

It's all getting a bit "how close to a p**r rack can we make something, without being accused of making a p**r rack by the softbags brigade" now :wink:
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Post by Alexpalacefan » Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:02 pm

Exactly the same issue (26" inside leg!) and I found the Alpkit Exo-Rail system to be spot-on.

Functional, lightweight and cheap. What's not to like?

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Re: Seat pack for limited rear tyre clearance

Post by ootini » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:41 pm

Without being "That guy", has anyone used one of these : Selighting Bike Saddle Bag Waterproof Cycling Tail Bag WILDKEN Strap-on Bike Seat Bag for Mountain Road MTB Bike (Black 5L) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07V5FYN8K/ ... pEbBHCVJCE
It seems to have a nice shallow profile up at the seat post. But it's also screaming cheap and nasty

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Post by Bearbonesnorm » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:55 pm

No but I can't help wondering whether you'd be throwing £30 away. I could be wrong but when I see a description that says
"customer plastic buckles are more strong" and "Add non-skid leather to all positions of contact seat" confidence is seldom increased. :wink:
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Re: Seat pack for limited rear tyre clearance

Post by ootini » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:07 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:55 pm
No but I can't help wondering whether you'd be throwing £30 away. I could be wrong but when I see a description that says
"customer plastic buckles are more strong" and "Add non-skid leather to all positions of contact seat" confidence is seldom increased. :wink:
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I completely agree, hence the curiosity around others experiences.

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