Been looking for it on net with no joy, has anyone got it they can share please?

https://ridewithgps.com/events/90042-se ... e-2-0-2019

Found it in googling 'second city divide gpx'

"Second City Divide" ...but it starts in Manchester.

Who named this... the Manchester tourist board?

Goes the other way I think. But the chaps who did the route / event last year are Manchester based I think.

Javi, i found that link but it wont ( or i cant ) open it pal

Mike wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:35 am Javi, i found that link but it wont ( or i cant ) open it pal

I can email it to you if you pm me an address mike

All the route options are available on the website

https://www.secondcitydivide.cc/

have found it now on my computer, the issue was my phone thanks

just found train tickets from brum to glasgow march 23rd for £25. Iv got 11 days to ride home so i think it would be rude not to try this route home, well till the pbw on the outskirts of manc then use this to return to ashbourne. From there it will be a skip across cannock onto the canal and home.

Does anyone know how to book a bike with trainline.com? Do i need to phone them

composite wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:32 am "Second City Divide" ...but it starts in Manchester.

Who named this... the Manchester tourist board?

No it doesn't.

It starts in the second city of Scotland.

And finishes in the second city of England.

In Reverse wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:42 pm

composite wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:32 am "Second City Divide" ...but it starts in Manchester.

Who named this... the Manchester tourist board?

No it doesn't.

It starts in the second city of Scotland.

And finishes in the second city of England.

I didn’t think it went anywhere near Birmingham?

It doesn't. It goes from Glasgow to Manchester.

In Reverse wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:51 pm It doesn't. It goes from Glasgow to Manchester.

Oh, so the route’s misnamed? Understood.

Ticket booked now doing it from the alternative start in Edinburgh, best get them legs sorted!

Well, Edinburgh is probably the second city of Scotland...

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:19 pm

In Reverse wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:51 pm It doesn't. It goes from Glasgow to Manchester.

Oh, so the route’s misnamed? Understood.

It's not a divide in the classical sense, so you're right - strictly speaking it's misnamed. Think of it as "Second City Epic" if that helps.

Well, Edinburgh is probably the second city of Scotland..

Certainly in terms of football but capital cities rarely fall to the status of " second city"

I was thinking more in terms of population.

FWIW there is a good Wiki article on second cities. I'd never considered Liverpool or Dublin...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_ ... ed_Kingdom

ScotRoutes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:25 am I was thinking more in terms of population.

FWIW there is a good Wiki article on second cities. I'd never considered Liverpool or Dublin...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_ ... ed_Kingdom

Ha , lived in Dublin for a while Colin and also in cork , cork is way bigger and the people there truly believe Dublin IS the second city.But when ever I tell people the Black Country is the cultural capital of the U.K. I just get sneered at I can’t understand why

I thought Birmingham was a suburb of Walsall?

Of course Manchester is England's second City, followed by Sheffield in third. I've no idea why government and business favour London over the first city of Carlisle, but hey ho, keeps the Great Border City niche and alternative.
Anyone else thinking of the suggested group finish in September? Seems to me group finish is a better way to organise a sociable event than group start.

boxelder wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:09 pm I thought Birmingham was a suburb of Walsall?

Of course Manchester is England's second City, followed by Sheffield in third. I've no idea why government and business favour London over the first city of Carlisle, but hey ho, keeps the Great Border City niche and alternative.
Anyone else thinking of the suggested group finish in September? Seems to me group finish is a better way to organise a sociable event than group start.

I'm planning to have a go at that yeah. Thinking 6 days for me unless theres some meteoric rise in my fitness before then!

Can we form some sort of mutual 'non backing out' pack (even though we've never met). I need to stop life getting in the way of these things.

boxelder wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:03 pm Can we form some sort of mutual 'non backing out' pack (even though we've never met). I need to stop life getting in the way of these things.

We can indeed.
My good lady wife is giving a kidney to a relative at some point this year, if she cant look after our due to this is the only thing will stop me.

I'll be doing it on my mtb too.

Mike wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:17 pm just found train tickets from brum to glasgow march 23rd for £25. Iv got 11 days to ride home so i think it would be rude not to try this route home, well till the pbw on the outskirts of manc then use this to return to ashbourne. From there it will be a skip across cannock onto the canal and home.

Does anyone know how to book a bike with trainline.com? Do i need to phone them

Mike... In trainline or however you booked it, find the train operator. Then check on the train operators website or whatever as to what protocol it is. It will either tell you phone or email them but by far twitter is generally the fastest. I just booked from Kings Cross to Wakefield for March and the operator is LNER. I just sent em a quick message via twitter and as if by magic a few minutes later I had a twitter e-note with my bike booking reservation.

Get in quick though Mike however you are gonna book the bike as theres sometimes a finite (is that the word! dunno... but you know what I means) number of places... Come to think of it limited would have worked but maybe that was me trying to be smart...

You might be wondering how to find your train operator. Click 'journey details'... Dont forgrt that if there is more than 1 train you will have to book via multiple portals.

If you dont have twitter then Stu does (but don't tell him I said that) and if that fails then feel free to PM your journey details and I'll input to twitter and get you some info back...