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Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 8:50 pm
by Moder-dye
Hi,

Anyone suggest a frame for a drop bar MTB with a tapered steerer for 100mm forks? 9mm QR disc 100mm & 135mm.

I've was using my drop bar converted charge cooker 3, but the relatively lower longer front end geometry of MTB isn't ideal, though it does work with spacers and a short stem.

The drops and suspension are for wrist issues on rough stuff. I can't handle a flat or swept bar for any length of time.

I had planned for ages to swap the frame for a vagabond frame, but now know I can't use my almost new 100mm forks as its a straight steerer.

Any suggestions of other frames to fit my forks and wheels? Thread BB would be a bonus too :lol:

Thought I could do it up while I'm still waiting for a resolution of my heart issue :roll:

I could swing a frame past my wife, not a whole new bike :wink:

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:17 pm
by Specialist Hoprocker
I'm selling a Flyxii 202 carbon frame that I used as a drop bar. Tapered steerer, treaded bb. 9mm qr 135 etc.

For sale post here:

viewtopic.php?t=14506

If you can't see the picks here's a link the the album:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/oMGpByEcfH5Wht9w8

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:33 pm
by Moder-dye
Cheers for that. Couple of questions...

Not sure on sizing? I'm just shy of 6ft, normally 54cm road bike. I suspect large will be too large.

I see its 1x, assume being CF it would have to stay 1x? I.E. can't just clamp a front derailleur on?

Kevin

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:43 pm
by lune ranger
An older Fargo - from before they went boost - think that was 2017/18 or something like that. It has old standard hub spacing and 44mm headtube that can go straight or tapered steerer’s. Large would do you fine
I picked up a 2015 jobbie on eBay end of last year and am loving it.

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 7:44 am
by Moder-dye
:-bd

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:43 pm
by BigdummySteve
lune ranger wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 11:43 pm An older Fargo - from before they went boost - think that was 2017/18 or something like that. It has old standard hub spacing and 44mm headtube that can go straight or tapered steerer’s. Large would do you fine
I picked up a 2015 jobbie on eBay end of last year and am loving it.
The newer Fargo can take multiple standards, you change The alternator dropouts to suit, 135,142,148 & dedicated rohloff. You also get chain tensioning/wheelbase adjustment.

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 3:10 pm
by Specialist Hoprocker
Moder-dye wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 9:33 pm Cheers for that. Couple of questions...

Not sure on sizing? I'm just shy of 6ft, normally 54cm road bike. I suspect large will be too large.

I see its 1x, assume being CF it would have to stay 1x? I.E. can't just clamp a front derailleur on?

Kevin
I'm just over 6' and it was slightly too short for me, so I reckon you'd be fine.

The seat tube is round so i reckon it would fit a front mech ok. I had a chain keeper on there which clamps the same way.

Where are you based? I'm Surrey/Hampshire.

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 3:18 pm
by lune ranger
BigdummySteve wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 2:43 pm
lune ranger wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 11:43 pm An older Fargo - from before they went boost - think that was 2017/18 or something like that. It has old standard hub spacing and 44mm headtube that can go straight or tapered steerer’s. Large would do you fine
I picked up a 2015 jobbie on eBay end of last year and am loving it.
The newer Fargo can take multiple standards, you change The alternator dropouts to suit, 135,142,148 & dedicated rohloff. You also get chain tensioning/wheelbase adjustment.
They go down to 135mm on the rear that’s cool didn’t realise that. That would leave you with some forward compatibility, though with ‘standards’ changing so often that may not be for long. Have my Fargo running a Rohloff with specific Alternator dropouts and a choice of 29er and 27+ wheels. Soon to have an air fork as well as the steel Firestarter - choices, choices.

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:54 pm
by Moder-dye
Specialist Hoprocker wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 3:10 pm
Where are you based? I'm Surrey/Hampshire.
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The Shetland isles! :lol: Cheers for the info :-bd

Cheer's for the Fargo info. TBH I'd be more interested in a Fargo.

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:10 pm
by TheBrownDog
I had planned for ages to swap the frame for a vagabond frame, but now know I can't use my almost new 100mm forks as its a straight steerer.
You can get headset bottom cup assemblies that let you do this. I put one of these (linky below) into an OO Inbred to fit a RS Rev with a tapered steerer. Worked perfectly. Not exactly cheap for what it is, but could be an option if you already have the frame.

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/can ... RcQAvD_BwE

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:13 pm
by Moder-dye
Ooooo! I knew you could get an adapter to put a straight into a tapered head, but not the other way around.

I don't have the frame, but an additional £32 wouldn't break the bank :-bd

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 7:01 pm
by lune ranger
Isn’t that just a normal 1.5in bottom cup for a 44mm headtube?
If the Vagabond has a 1 1/8th headtube I don’t think that would work. Also is the Vagabond suspension corrected? I

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 9:48 pm
by Moder-dye
I don't know, that's another reason I was asking for alternatives

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 11:12 pm
by lune ranger
Hope a Vagabond owner will join the conversation but looking at Genisis website makes me think the Vagabond is not suspension corrected. At least they don’t say so and usually companies like to shout about that stuff. It also says 1 1/8th headset so don’t think your forks would fit. Shame because it looks like a nice bike at a good price.

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:43 pm
by jameso
Moder-dye wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:13 pm Ooooo! I knew you could get an adapter to put a straight into a tapered head, but not the other way around.

I don't have the frame, but an additional £32 wouldn't break the bank :-bd
EC44 cups need a 44mm ID head tube to fit though, ie they don't fit a standard 1 1/8" old-style head tube (sorry..)

Re: Suggest a drop bar MTB frame?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:03 pm
by Moder-dye
Cheers Jameso.

Can only find S or XS older Fargo so far. Can get a Ti gryphon made, sadly I don't have £2k for a frame, lovely though it would be. Not sure I'll ever have £2k for a frame :lol:

Away for a week now so, will think again when I'm home....