Sleeping bag opinion mountain hardwear phantom

[Mitomaniac]

Been looking about online for a bag that is warm but packs small etc and i find affordable

https://rockrun.com/collections/mountai ... tom-28f-2c

Would that be a suitable bag for autumn and spring times ? i have a bag thats suitable with a silk liner for summer and it packs small too.

i was looking at weight and packsize and its right at the upper limit of my budget, i have a military bivy bag ill be using with it, and i do have a liner i can always use for a bit more insulation

[Bearbonesnorm]

It's a very good bag and should do exactly what you require.

[Mitomaniac]

It's a very good bag and should do exactly what you require.

Appreciated thanks

[psling]

Agree with Stu, that looks a good buy at that price. Handled with care it should give a lot of fun nights out.

[Mitomaniac]

Ordered

Thanks next to resolve the tarp or tent debate

Looking to the DD super light 2.8 X 1.5 or whatever it is or the hexoeak 2

Both different but I can only go one or the other advantage of the tent is my little boy can come along he can sleep in inner and I'll give bag the porch bit but it's packsize and weight penalty again meh

[Bearbonesnorm]

Both different but I can only go one or the other advantage of the tent is my little boy can come along he can sleep in inner and I'll give bag the porch bit but it's packsize and weight penalty again meh

You'll get 1.5 of you under a small tarp and kids love kipping under tarps

[whitestone]

When we started using tarps we used the Alpkit r-i-g3.5 which is 2.4x1.4m and could (just) squeeze in two adults. Actually the main problem wasn't floor space but head room as to keep the edges reasonably close to the ground (and we are talking 200mm here) then there isn't the material to allow you to pitch it so that the ridge is high enough to sit up.

Their (DD) 3x3m superlight tarp isn't much heavier and would definitely be big enough for two.

[middleagedmadness]

I got me and my 13yr old under a dd s tarp in a fashion when on Jenn ride this year ,heads and parts of body under tarp feet sicking out ( could have been set up in a different configuration to get a bit more coverage but it wouldn't have been much more) and Stu's right he loved the tarp and as he put it the bodybag

[ScotRoutes]

I got me and my 13yr old under a dd s tarp in a fashion when on Jenn ride this year ,heads and parts of body under tarp feet sicking out ( could have been set up in a different configuration to get a bit more coverage but it wouldn't have been much more) and Stu's right he loved the tarp and as he put it the bodybag

That's a good photo for explaining my point about considering the tarp and bivvy bag as part of a system.

[Mitomaniac]

Excellent info again thanks I'll try and get him a cheap bivvy bag for the odd summer trip we will do

[middleagedmadness]

Cheers routes ,he loves that set up much more than a tent ,just a shame with his other hobbies and the amount of school work he brings home he only managed to get out 2-3 times a year