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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by K1100T » Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:05 am

PaulE wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:01 pm
At the risk of getting lynched, has anyone tried refillable coffee bags? I'm an aeropress fan at home, but I've seen these bags and thought they would be the lightest solution?
Yes, as a couple of bags is a damn sight smaller than an Aeropress, Porlex and beans. Tasted better than I was expecting, but then I wasn't expecting much. If you can get over the pre-ground oxidised taste, then you'll be fine.
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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by thenorthwind » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:36 am

PaulE wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:01 pm
At the risk of getting lynched, has anyone tried refillable coffee bags? I'm an aeropress fan at home, but I've seen these bags and thought they would be the lightest solution?
Have thought of trying a bit of muslin and an elastic band but not got round to it. Would be an improvement on the cowboy method for next to zero extra weight. Easy to clean if you have access to water too.

I used the prefilled coffee bags you can buy once at work, but I couldn't brew it strong enough for my liking.

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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by PaulE » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:01 am

You can buy empty, drawstring topped bags on Amazon. I was thinking about using one of those with a fairly coarse grind coffee in it.
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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by redefined_cycles » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:54 am

oreocereus wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:07 pm
Good call, i used a friends rhinowears one at home. Entirely a pig to use... very difficult to grind with (and he subsequently just buys Preground coffee, so it gathers dust). Have fun :-bd :-bd
Sir Coffee Master and Tannin Tea hater... please may I just say that after what seems over a month of deliberation* (from your advice but longer from when I wasn't in the know), I've finally ordered my 1Zpresso... The Hario also seems to have broken itself in just this week :lol: Thanks kindly good sir :-bd ..

*Plus frantic ebay selling.

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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by oreocereus » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:03 pm

Ah sorry about the hario! How long did it last? What was the point of failure? Let us know how the 1zpresso is. Haven’t seen many reviews outside niche coffee forums (which believe it or not, I try to avoid!)
thenorthwind wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:36 am
I used the prefilled coffee bags you can buy once at work, but I couldn't brew it strong enough for my liking.
I had heard this about some of those coffee “bags” (which seem to be quite expensive for low grade coffee) before - noticed they were usually 7-10g of coffee per bag. Unless someone likes their coffee quite diluted, that’s only enough coffee for 100-150ml of water (no matter how long you brew or boil it - whichll bring out those nastier flavors anyway). Possibly doubling up the bags would provide a better brew.

I’ve done the reusable bag thing, a waste free shop when I used to live in Brighton sold reusable tea bags. They were somewhere between Muslin cloth and cotton for fabric, with a little drawstring.

With good coffee, was pretty decent. The main issue is the bag was a bit small, so the coffee clumps a bit together, and the coffee in the middle of the “bag” doesn’t have as much contact with the water as the stuff at the outside - so extraction trended toward uneven. I think an oversized bag would be a really good solution, though.

Another, very easy way of doing it is an adaption of this French press technique . Notably he doesn’t plunge, rather he uses a long brew time to let the siltier coffee particles fall to the bottom before pouring through the mesh. I’ve done this without a press, but just letting the particles drift down before very gently decanting into a cup. I’ve also done it by putting a v60 filter in my pot (so Brewing by immersion) and gently lifting it out after 4-5 mins. Both methods are a little more fiddly but produced a better cup than the reusable tea-bag.

I think an oversized piece fabric filter with elastic to attach it to the pot edges (so it doesn’t collapse in) might be the best combo of easy/non-single use waste/quality coffee/light and compact. Tea bag is a pretty good solution too, and If I wasn’t bringing a grinder I’d go for one of those two methods over an aero press - the heavier/bulkier/more complex aero press would only justify itself with a fresh grind.

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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by oreocereus » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:05 pm

PaulE wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:01 am
You can buy empty, drawstring topped bags on Amazon. I was thinking about using one of those with a fairly coarse grind coffee in it.
Do you have a link? Should be easy to make with some scrap non-dyed/organic material, but a commercial option would be nice. See above post - I reckon it could be a winning combo for both “snobs” and “I just want the caffeine quickly” types alike

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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by redefined_cycles » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:23 pm

oreocereus wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:03 pm
Ah sorry about the hario! How long did it last?
:smile: sorry... No you misread it. I was meaning that the thing you shared about needing about 200g or something for the burrs to wear in and the grind becoming smoother. 'Broken in' not 'its broken'... :smile: I love the Hario but really needed to see for myself what everyone else is tasting with their Porlex and similar grinders :-bd

Might keep the Hario at work and the 1Zpresso at home...

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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by oreocereus » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:27 pm

Oh right! Sorry yes misread. Will be curious if you can taste a significant difference and if the ease of use is notable. Haven’t seen any speed tests with the 1zpresso, but from what I’ve heard about the hario it should be a lot faster to use.

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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by redefined_cycles » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:32 pm

oreocereus wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:27 pm
Oh right! Sorry yes misread. Will be curious if you can taste a significant difference and if the ease of use is notable. Haven’t seen any speed tests with the 1zpresso, but from what I’ve heard about the hario it should be a lot faster to use.
I'll try and do some back to back controlled (as much as am able) testing and report back. Seems a good investment from what I've been reading on them funny forums...

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Re: Something for the coffee snobs.

Post by PaulE » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:43 pm

oreocereus wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:05 pm
PaulE wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:01 am
You can buy empty, drawstring topped bags on Amazon. I was thinking about using one of those with a fairly coarse grind coffee in it.
Do you have a link? Should be easy to make with some scrap non-dyed/organic material, but a commercial option would be nice. See above post - I reckon it could be a winning combo for both “snobs” and “I just want the caffeine quickly” types alike
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Disposable-Dra ... 4448&psc=1

But these ones are bigger.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07YTV ... UTF8&psc=1
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