The bikepackers guide to - ethics

[voodoo_simon]

As far as I'm aware and following of from other threads (!), we need a set of wilderness guidelines or ethics*

1) Leave no trace

2) Don't ask where the bothy is



*This could get messy

[BigdummySteve]

Not keen myself although Epping forest can be nice.

[atk]

Surely rule 1 is "don't be a dick"

[ianfitz]

Surely rule 1 is "don't be a dick"

With a supplementary rule 2: obey the rules at all times.

[whitestone]

Surely rule 1 is "don't be a dick"

With a supplementary rule 2: obey the rules at all times.

Before you know it we'll be getting all serious http://www.velominati.com/

[Bearbonesnorm]

I'd feel pretty uncomfortable if a 'guide to ethics' or 'personal behaviour' emanated from BB, just as I felt uncomforatable by proxy when bikepacking.com gave out their 2016 awards last month ... I mean, does anyone really have a high enough pedestal for this?

I think there only need be one single rule which Andy has already mentioned - 'Don't be a dick'. 99% of people know where the line is and by adhering to that one 'rule' everything else will fall into place.

[Scud]

Couldn't read this without thinking of "that" joke.

Chris Eubank has written a "Guide to Ethics".................his next one will be about Kent.

[ctznsmith]

The first rule of bikepacking is you don't talk about bikepacking?

(oh the irony )

[Cheeky Monkey]

Surely rule 1 is "don't be a dick"

[HaYWiRe]

I have my own ethics, some may disagree but it's what I follow and what I believe in my humble opinion is right, I don't need anyone else to tell me that.


Respect nature, if you disrespect the mountain she will tear you apart, sometimes morally, sometimes literally.

Be nice to everyone, they're all fighting a hard battle somewhere and sometimes it only takes a smile to carry you to the top.

Tread lightly, millions have been there before you, don't let your actions damage the experience of the millions that may come after you.

If someone needs help, help. There has been too many occasions where you needed it yourself and there was none, don't let them have the same memory.


Those that don't follow similar ideals need no scowl or punishment from us or other people. And who am i to judge others? No one is in charge of nature. everyone learns eventually, the weather always wins in the end

[jam bo]

I have my own ethics, some may disagree but it's what I follow and what I believe in my humble opinion is right, I don't need anyone else to tell me that.


Respect nature, if you disrespect the mountain she will tear you apart, sometimes morally, sometimes literally.

Be nice to everyone, they're all fighting a hard battle somewhere and sometimes it only takes a smile to carry you to the top.

Tread lightly, millions have been there before you, don't let your actions damage the experience of the millions that may come after you.

If someone needs help, help. There has been too many occasions where you needed it yourself and there was none, don't let them have the same memory.


Those that don't follow similar ideals need no scowl or punishment from us or other people. And who am i to judge others? No one is in charge of nature. everyone learns eventually, the weather always wins in the end

in summary. Don't be a dick ;-)

[ZeroDarkBivi]

So what next, form an ethics committee and find reasons to get upset about everything you don't like? No thanks, I have a aversion to morale preaching. Rule 1 is sufficient for me, and I think we are fortunate that the nature of our hobby doesn't attract many dicks (that I have met, unless it's me!).

2) Don't ask where the bothy is

Why not? So only the grumpy people in the know have them all to themselves?

[Bearbonesnorm]

Why not?

I don't think it's a question of not asking, more to do with where you ask.

So only the grumpy people in the know have them all to themselves?

Who's f**kin' grumpy

[voodoo_simon]

So what next, form an ethics committee and find reasons to get upset about everything you don't like? No thanks, I have a aversion to morale preaching.

I was trying to get an insight to people's own opinions, nothing preachy and I was hoping for more responses for closer to the rules whitestone linked to, something a bit more lighter hearted to the 'average' bikepacker

Be nice to everyone

[Fat tyre kicker]

Same predicament 20 years ago when I was involved in 'green laning', we would
Research, seek permissions, leave no trace - especially if we camped but were
Hounded by others ( pre Internet forums then) to let them have grid refs etc, I was
Even offered cash for marked up maps of the Peaks and Nantymoch areas...not a chance,
As it happens greedy stupid people have f##ked it up for everybody by driving everywhere etc,
I can understand why landowners/farmers etc can be so anti when these morons just do as
They please at the price of a bit of fun.....keep bothy locations as they are....a little bit hard to
Find, it will keep the ' I can't be arsed doing any research brigade' guessing

[HaYWiRe]

As for bothys, I've never been in one, and would really like to know where they are...

...however I wouldn't want anyone to post it publicly for obvious reasons, I'd rather find one whilst out riding with someone whom knows, via actual face to face communication and mutual trust.

The best places are always hard to get to, it's what keeps them special and secluded.


And as for simplifying ethics to "don't be a d**k" I find that really implies to not do any harm to others or be rude, however it doesn't give any inclination towards actually going out of your way to be good to others and the area.

There is a difference between not being bad, and actually being good.

I can't force my ethics on anyone and to do so would be almost ironic and contrary to by views so I just care that I follow them, what others do is not for me to judge.
I'd rather lead by example than tell others how to be.

[jameso]

Haywire, I like it as an ethic. "Be excellent to each other" : )

[slarge]

I thought we already had the only rule we need: "Don't be soft"

[ianfitz]

As for bothys, I've never been in one, and would really like to know where they are...

The mountain Bothy association are happy to let you know where a lot of them are. There's some good location maps in their website

[Bearbonesnorm]

I thought we already had the only rule we need: "Don't be soft"

[ScotRoutes]

As for bothys, I've never been in one, and would really like to know where they are...

The mountain Bothy association are happy to let you know where a lot of them are. There's some good location maps in their website

That, really. The MBA cats have been out of the bag a looong time.

[MarkW]

I think a comedic set of rules would go down well.

[Dave Barter]

I think a comedic set of rules would go down well.

Like these http://www.phased.co.uk/oldsite/index.p ... lines.html

[ScotRoutes]

I think a comedic set of rules would go down well.

1/ No swearing....

[voodoo_simon]

I think a comedic set of rules would go down well.

Like these http://www.phased.co.uk/oldsite/index.p ... lines.html

Comedy gold!