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What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:08 pm
by BridlewayBimbler
In the esteemed opinion of members, what is the ultimate bikepacking shelter?

Thanks in advance. :-bd

Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:19 pm
by Hyppy
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Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:40 pm
by Richpips
I've tried most one person tents and bivi shelters. I still have several.

It's hard to look past the SMD Lunar Solo for all but the nastiest weather.

A MLD Duomid for winter use.

Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:41 pm
by johnnystorm
Whichever one you get put up before it rains...

Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:16 am
by redefined_cycles
A Durston?

Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:55 am
by Bearbonesnorm
I imagine that the answer is as numerous as the people who use them and the attitudes they have. As Rich says, the Lunar Solo is very popular and ticks most of the boxes people have. For me however, the SMD Gatewood Cape probably wins as it's considerably lighter, packs smaller and as it's only a canopy can be erected in spots with limited space.

Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 am
by pistonbroke
Don't forget the environment/climate that you're using them in. For me in a place that is usually mild/warm and dry with occasional biblical rain storms with dry sandy and rocky terrain, a tarp with borah bivvy to keep the bugs out is plenty. I understand why some would want the perceived security of a tent to keep the wildlife out but for me this is a what you can't see can't hurt you situation but there's not much out there that's going to attack you. If a wild boar takes against you, 2 layers of nylon aren't going to help.

Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:27 am
by faustus
Aside from the joys of canvas (or very thin plastic as it now is), I like the thought of basic 'found' shelter that meets all your needs. Impromptu stuff abounds in the UK with barns and derelict buildings etc. But nothing beats the Scandi system of wilderness shelters in the woods. Like a basic Finnish Laavu, 3 sides and an open fire, enough to get snug and survive the elements. I've not used one, but i'd love to off road tour in these areas.
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Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:30 am
by Hyppy
Beyond my facetious first response, I'm a SMD Gatewood Cape user too. I've only ever used it with the Serenity Ultralight NetTent, but other than for keeping midges at bay am not sure that's necessary or even has a high enough denier to act as a true inner double-wall. Does anyone know the science re that?

As Stu alludes to, the Gatewood Cape is a real flexible bit of kit.
faustus wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:27 am … I like the thought of basic 'found' shelter that meets all your needs. Impromptu stuff abounds in the UK with barns and derelict buildings etc. …
I like this too. On a ride, no matter how short, I'm forever scoping out potential shelters just-in-case, from posh 'audax hotel' bus shelters thru abandoned farm machinery to natural rock formations. You never know when they'll come in handy.

Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:03 pm
by fatbikephil
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All mod cons and baby changing facilities too!

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Slightly less salubrious but surprisingly cosy....

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At the other end of the scale but surprisingly weather proof and V light. (Wildsky DCF tarp, BB lightweight pole and Borah gear bivvy bag - 500g's inc pegs)

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Best allrounder - SMD Deschutes - 850gs with the mesh inner or 750 with the borah bivvy inc. BB pole and pegs. More flexible than the Lunar solo and better in wet weather plus pretty bomb proof.

This remains a 5 star option though...
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Re: What is the ultimate shelter

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:31 pm
by jameso
Another vote for the found shelter option. If bikepacking is about lightweight minimalism (a big if, but for the sake of the point) then a bivi bag only approach and hoping to find shelter when you need cover is the lightest and most minimal. Also I like the wing-it attitude, it guarantees the element of luck coming into things more than usual, plus the mental games of weather watching and should I stop here, should I carry on and hope.. Never a dull trip. Often a damp trip too : )

Not always a sensible choice though so for shelters you take with you, I do like the Gatewood Cape. A tad small for me but a great coverage:weight ratio. That or a 1.5 x 2.5m tarp.

Thinking about found shelters, it's part of why I like repeating routes or riding in the same general area again. I seem to have a good memory for barns, covered areas in municipal areas or hiker shelters. I've used the 'hotel Schauinsland', a hiker shelter on top of a hill in Germany, 3 times now. The forest shelters in Scandinavia look great.