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frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:11 pm
by ton
possibly looking for a new steel frame, but would love it to be the same geometry as my ti fargo, as it fits me well.

any idea's greatly appreciated.

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:55 pm
by Ben98
A steel Fargo?

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:23 pm
by fatbikephil
Cotic Cascade
Pipedream Alice
Brother Mehteh
Genesis Vagabond
Mason Insearchof
Kona Sutra LTD

To name but a few...
Also see https://bikepacking.com/index/drop-bar- ... ikes-29er/

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:42 pm
by Bearlegged
Can't help but feel Ben's onto summat there...

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:57 pm
by redefined_cycles
Bearlegged wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:42 pm Can't help but feel Ben's onto summat there...
:lol:

Maybe Ton doesn't wanna spend another small fortune and get the closest compromise :smile:

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:13 pm
by ton
steel fargo wouldbe good, but there are no xl frames anywhere at present.

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:07 am
by gairym
geometrygeeks.bike

There's a (paid) service on the above site that allows you to search for bikes that have a defined set of geometry lengths/angles.

Never tried it but I like the idea.

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:24 am
by Johnallan
Out of curiosity, what's wrong with the Ti Fargo?

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:43 am
by PaulB2
The wind changed, time for a new bike :grin:

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:34 am
by ton
Nothing wrong with it.
But I cracked the frame and now have a brand new replacement.

But now worried it may happen again. So just toying with the idea of selling it and buying something in gas pipe.

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:34 am
by ton
And new bikes are always nice

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:06 pm
by riderdown
But I cracked the frame and now have a brand new replacement.
What's the warranty situation with the new frame?

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:20 pm
by ton
Salsa give 5 years warranty on Ti frames. To the original owner.

Pretty sure most bike companies only warranty a frame to the original owner. Though specialized do lifetime warranty to the original owner with 2 years passed on to the next owner

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:48 pm
by pistonbroke
Van Nicholas have a lifetime warranty on their Ti bikes and frames, good job really as I'm on my 4th frame in 10 years! 2x Redwood which were both soley used for bike packing trips about 6 times a year, same with a Zion Rohloff specific frame. Currently my beta testing victim is a Rowtag gravel bike, any bets on how long this one lasts. All previous bikes failed with cracks that processed from the welds around the headtube. For the benefit of Scotroutes who will state the opposite experience, I'm a 63 year old, 5'11" 12 stone mincer. The problem is that to date due to changing standards, each rebuild has cost me a significant amount in components. The current bike has cost €2,000 for new drivetrain, finishing kit and wheels.

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:51 pm
by jameso
https://singularcycles.com/products/gry ... 5088375033

Singular Gryphon V3? Not many drop bar 29ers with that sort of pedigree. A friend of mine who's opinion I'd give plenty of weight to has the V2 and rates it highly. Looks sorted, similar reach and only a bit less stack, as long as the 480mm C-C seat tube is enough for you?

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:29 pm
by Rich3rd

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:35 am
by Johnallan
Rich3rd wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:29 pm Custom frame, chuffed with mine

http://www.spanner.org.uk/2020/10/richa ... nner-bike/
Thats bloody lovely!

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:42 am
by benp1
jameso wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:51 pm https://singularcycles.com/products/gry ... 5088375033

Singular Gryphon V3? Not many drop bar 29ers with that sort of pedigree. A friend of mine who's opinion I'd give plenty of weight to has the V2 and rates it highly. Looks sorted, similar reach and only a bit less stack, as long as the 480mm C-C seat tube is enough for you?
This bike looks bloody ace

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:17 am
by Cheeky Monkey
I've had a Gryphon for a longtime. It's a great bike. Think V2 or maybe V1.

For me at an average height but a bit apey and a totally MTB background I *needed* a decent spacer stack and a high-rise stem, just mentioning, it's not a flaw or problem.

They even do a Ti version (F&F) on special order, last time I asked c.£2k+. I couldn't justify it to myself, not even upgrading the frame to the latest steel version with bolt throughs.

I'd offer Ton a lend but it's only Medium :???:

Re: frames similar to the Ti fargo, but in tough gas pipe?

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:04 pm
by voodoo_simon
Rich3rd wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:29 pm Custom frame, chuffed with mine

http://www.spanner.org.uk/2020/10/richa ... nner-bike/
Looks vaguely exciting, liking it :-bd


Haven’t singular opened up a shop now or something? Think someone I follow on the ‘gram went last weekend