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Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:46 pm
by Tallpaul
Hi all,
I’m planing my first bikepacking trip and am struggling to find a sleep system which is good for those who sleep on their side.
What does everybody use?
Rectangular sleeping bag, quilt or something else?
Any specific suggestions or general advice would be appreciated.
Happy trails :)

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:50 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I too am a side sleeper and use quilts. I find the US brands are often a little wider so well suited.

Mr Climber swears by the Sierra Designs Backcountry bed for side sleepers.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:09 pm
by whitestone
Side/foetal position sleeper here. I'm 1m80 & 85kg and the original style of Cumulus quilt is "just" too narrow and I have to get myself "set" prior to nodding off. I believe that the current style is wider but haven't tried one to confirm.

The US manufacturers list "girth" which is really just width times two but makes more sense (to me at least). Enlightened Equipment have a sizing guide that is worth looking at. The main problem with ordering from them, or any other US maker, is the cost to which you need to add shipping and then duty and VAT.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:18 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Enlightened are available in the UK at Valley and Peak.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:28 pm
by rudedog
I’m a side sleeper and have the enlightened revelation, it’s great - wide enough that I don’t get a draughty back (which I did with the cumulus comforter I used before it).

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:46 pm
by Tallpaul
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:50 pm I too am a side sleeper and use quilts. I find the US brands are often a little wider so well suited.

Mr Climber swears by the Sierra Designs Backcountry bed for side sleepers.
Sierra Designs looks good but it’s 1.3kg (large) looks like a quilt is the way to go.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:09 pm
by fatbikephil
Cumulus or thermorest quilt plus full length mat (neoair) for me - like being in bed!
As Whitestone notes, new cumulus quilts are plenty wide and good for me length wise at 6'1"

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:19 pm
by JohnClimber
Tallpaul wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:46 pm
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:50 pm I too am a side sleeper and use quilts. I find the US brands are often a little wider so well suited.

Mr Climber swears by the Sierra Designs Backcountry bed for side sleepers.
Sierra Designs looks good but it’s 1.3kg (large) looks like a quilt is the way to go.
Been there with quilts, too many cold back drafts waking me up when I move around in bed,
I'd rather cut back on other luxuries (beer, tea making stuff) and carry this bit of extra weight to get a really good nights sleep than not sleep well to save a few grams.

Here's my post quilt life review, for the best nights sleep with a thick air mattress too

https://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/ ... untry-bed/

And the excellent bivi bag to suit it
https://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/ ... try-bivvy/

Not cheap but for a great nights sleep all 3 in this kit are worth every penny on over the stuff I've used before.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:30 pm
by Moder-dye
I often sleep in, or have my down jacket over my top half, with just the half open sleeping bag over my chest down. Can't stand having my arms confined

Now I have a quilt I usually have that up to my arm pits with down jacket either on or draped over my top.

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Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:00 pm
by Boab
While I like being wrapped up like I'm in a cocoon, I dislike the constriction that a sleeping bag brings, so I have a Thermarest Vesper 32 UL down quilt that I use with my Exped DownMat Lite 5 M. I generally start out on my back, then wriggle around onto my side, then back onto my back, then side, etc, etc. I do have to take care when rolling over onto my side not to expose my back, and sometime I do have to do a bit of manual manoeuvring of the quilt to ensure I'm draught free; this is really only an issue in winter, as the quilt isn't quite warm enough for that kind of usage for me. I think if I paired it with an Thermarest NeoAir mat and used the strap it comes with to hold it to the mat, I might get on a bit better. I suppose what I'm saying, is make sure you pick a mat and quilt / bag that are compatible with how you sleep (and what you sleep in / under), rather than random items based on cost or fancy.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:36 pm
by rudedog
The Enlightened quilts (and Cumulus) have straps that attach to the quilt which then go round your sleep mat.

As long as I have the straps on, I never have an issue with a cold/draughty back.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:11 pm
by JohnClimber
rudedog wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:36 pm The Enlightened quilts (and Cumulus) have straps that attach to the quilt which then go round your sleep mat.

As long as I have the straps on, I never have an issue with a cold/draughty back.
Used the straps, still had the drafts

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:47 pm
by belugabob
Draughts aside (which is what puts me off quilts) the biggest issue that I find, with side sleeping, is lying on my arm and getting pins & needles.
The solution that I've arrived at, is to cross my arms and hold opposite shoulders - a bit like Dracula, in his coffin - as it keeps things in a more comfortable position.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:43 pm
by rudedog
JohnClimber wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:11 pm
rudedog wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:36 pm The Enlightened quilts (and Cumulus) have straps that attach to the quilt which then go round your sleep mat.

As long as I have the straps on, I never have an issue with a cold/draughty back.
Used the straps, still had the drafts
What quilt were you using?

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:30 am
by rudedog
https://youtu.be/mHznRpNJpxU

I use the loop strap with the upper clips on the quilt

I've never had an issue with draughts using the strap like this.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:11 am
by Johnallan
Side sleeper and wriggler. I just use a sleeping bag and a decent mat (neoair). Its not quite like being in bed at home, but its fine.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:06 pm
by JohnClimber
rudedog wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:43 pm
JohnClimber wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:11 pm
rudedog wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:36 pm The Enlightened quilts (and Cumulus) have straps that attach to the quilt which then go round your sleep mat.

As long as I have the straps on, I never have an issue with a cold/draughty back.
Used the straps, still had the drafts
What quilt were you using?
Cumulus 250 and 450

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:05 pm
by rudedog
JohnClimber wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:06 pm
rudedog wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:43 pm
JohnClimber wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:11 pm
rudedog wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:36 pm The Enlightened quilts (and Cumulus) have straps that attach to the quilt which then go round your sleep mat.

As long as I have the straps on, I never have an issue with a cold/draughty back.
Used the straps, still had the drafts
What quilt were you using?
Cumulus 250 and 450
I had bother with a cumulus down comforter and draughts but it was very narrow (110cm) and used the old lace style attachment system, can’t comment on the ones you’ve tried.

Re: Sleep system for the side sleepers

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:51 am
by Tallpaul
Thanks all for the info.
I’ve decided to go for the Therm-a-rest Neo air xlite and the Therm-a-rest corus 20 quilt.
Should be fine for sleeping out end of May