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Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:56 pm
by postierich
Planning on stopping at lots of cafes on the Italy divide so quick and easy locks that are quick to use and easy to carry, obviously its basically to stop opportunist thieves!

Rich

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:26 pm
by Alpinum
Love this one:
https://www.eaglecreek.com/products/3-d ... lock-cable
Must have had it for at least 10 years and is still doing its job nicely. The free lock and the long cable with the two loops are extremely practical and will also work with multiple bikes.
Cable can be used for many other things too.

Tiny and light as well.

Could be one of my favourite gear items.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:02 pm
by benp1
I have a couple of abus combination retractable cable locks. One used for locking the Brompton on the train and the other for bikepacking and locking my bike outside the pub after a Friday night ride. Pack up nice and neat in a bag

I’ve also got a couple of key based ones knocking around but i forgot the key once and they became a paperweight!

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:54 am
by samwise
I've use one of these. Not sure it would really stop anyone but gives some piece of mind for quick pitstops.

https://www.squirelocks.co.uk/shop/retrac-2.html

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:52 am
by turfroof
I use a small combination lock from Abus and a cable from Kryptonite . Takes up no space and easy to use .

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:30 am
by Shewie
I use a length of Amsteel blue with a fixed eye at each end, then just a small Yale combilock

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:33 am
by woodsmith

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:54 am
by Bearbonesnorm
I've got a few cheap as chips things from PX. You're not breaking them with your hands, so I figure they're enough to put off the opportunist and allow me time to switch from 'mild mannered janitor' to Hong Kong Phooey should someone take too keen an interest.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:58 am
by Wotsits
Take your front axle out, that'll stop anyone riding away on it & also difficult to push away. Costs nothing!
Add a small cable lock to secure it to something if needed.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:25 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Take your front axle out, that'll stop anyone riding away on it & also difficult to push away. Costs nothing!
Add a small cable lock to secure it to something if needed.
No mention of securing your passport Jase? :wink:

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:29 am
by Wotsits
Bearbonesnorm wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:25 am
Take your front axle out, that'll stop anyone riding away on it & also difficult to push away. Costs nothing!
Add a small cable lock to secure it to something if needed.
No mention of securing your passport Jase? :wink:
There is that as well!! :lol:

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:05 am
by ootini
woodsmith wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:33 am One of these https://mobil.abus.com/uk/on-road/Locks ... x-2503-120
I use a cheapo amazon version of this. Its perfectly fine, decent quality, cost no more than a tenner.
I bought my son the Evans equivalent for his bike and its awful, doesn't retract properly, really shoddy build quality.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:22 pm
by Alpinum
woodsmith wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:33 am One of these https://mobil.abus.com/uk/on-road/Locks ... x-2503-120
Can't recommend it.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:45 pm
by Lazarus
Why ?
none of think it would deter anything other than an opportunist
i use the same - its a visual deterrent really as its would be easy to cut - then again any lick is likely to last seconds against a battery angle grinder - and then you have to argue with a person armed with a battery angle grinder

Like the axle out - i usually take the chain off

i used to take the chain off and use this as a lock with a small padlock through it as even if they can be arsed they then have to outrun me [ its too fiddly and messy for a quick stop IME.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:47 pm
by In Reverse
Wotsits wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:58 am Take your front axle out, that'll stop anyone riding away on it & also difficult to push away. Costs nothing!
Add a small cable lock to secure it to something if needed.
This is a good idea. :-bd

Can someone start a "What 6mm allen key?" thread pls?

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:00 pm
by johnnystorm
In Reverse wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:47 pm
Wotsits wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:58 am Take your front axle out, that'll stop anyone riding away on it & also difficult to push away. Costs nothing!
Add a small cable lock to secure it to something if needed.
This is a good idea. :-bd

Can someone start a "What 6mm allen key?" thread pls?
Apart from having to find somewhere to store a greasy thru axle and you've now made the theft of your wheel really easy I can't see that being any better than just carrying a small lock like those suggested above. As Stu said anything to stop someone just walking off with it and buying you some time. Also, you might like my daft mate 30 odd years ago riding away with a QR undone for security reasons, and before the days of lawyer tabs too...

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:19 pm
by woodsmith
Alpinum wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:22 pm
woodsmith wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:33 am One of these https://mobil.abus.com/uk/on-road/Locks ... x-2503-120
Can't recommend it.
That out of stock suitcase lock you linked to looks soooooo much more robust, I must send of to the US for one as soon as its available. :roll:

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:26 pm
by godivatrailrider
A velcro strap holding the front brake on is an easy confusion maker... stops it from being instantly wheeled away, and buys a few seconds ... would a tiny padlock through the drive chain be any good?

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:43 pm
by woodsmith
godivatrailrider wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:26 pm A velcro strap holding the front brake on is an easy confusion maker... stops it from being instantly wheeled away, and buys a few seconds ... would a tiny padlock through the drive chain be any good?
I regularly use a length of velcro one-wrap around the brake lever to stop the bike rolling away, on trains etc and its tricked me plenty of times. :oops: Small pad lock through the brake disc is another option. On a few occasions I've put the Rohloff hub in bottom gear and loosend the external cable box. Nobody is going anywhere fast with it stuck in 15 gear inches :lol:

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:05 pm
by Lazarus
you've now made the theft of your wheel really easy
is someone really going to walk up to your bike and just try to steal the front wheel? if they are the maxle is hardly going to be beyond them.
i
Your forks are only three bolts [ if you cut cables]

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:37 pm
by Rich3rd
https://www.abus.com/us/Home-Security/C ... biloop-205 This is quite versatile, anchor the loop at one end to something and the locking end can easily secure 3 bikes in one go.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:15 pm
by PaulB2
I've used a hiplok z-lock combo for 3-4 years now with no issues - it's just enough to stop an opportunist but no more than that.

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:13 pm
by Alpinum
woodsmith wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:19 pm
Alpinum wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:22 pm
woodsmith wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:33 am One of these https://mobil.abus.com/uk/on-road/Locks ... x-2503-120
Can't recommend it.
That out of stock suitcase lock you linked to looks soooooo much more robust, I must send of to the US for one as soon as its available. :roll:
I'm writing from experience, not by how things look like :wink:

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm
by In Reverse
johnnystorm wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:00 pm
In Reverse wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:47 pm
Wotsits wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:58 am Take your front axle out, that'll stop anyone riding away on it & also difficult to push away. Costs nothing!
Add a small cable lock to secure it to something if needed.
This is a good idea. :-bd

Can someone start a "What 6mm allen key?" thread pls?
Apart from having to find somewhere to store a greasy thru axle and you've now made the theft of your wheel really easy I can't see that being any better than just carrying a small lock like those suggested above. As Stu said anything to stop someone just walking off with it and buying you some time.
Unfortunately I don't think we'll have agreed on the best lock before we depart for the Italy Divide next Thursday.

Maybe the thru axle could be stored in a cigar case?

Can anyone recommend a cigar case?

Re: Cafe/shop locks for Bikepacking

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:52 pm
by Shewie
In Reverse wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:48 pm
johnnystorm wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:00 pm
In Reverse wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:47 pm
Wotsits wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:58 am Take your front axle out, that'll stop anyone riding away on it & also difficult to push away. Costs nothing!
Add a small cable lock to secure it to something if needed.
This is a good idea. :-bd

Can someone start a "What 6mm allen key?" thread pls?
Apart from having to find somewhere to store a greasy thru axle and you've now made the theft of your wheel really easy I can't see that being any better than just carrying a small lock like those suggested above. As Stu said anything to stop someone just walking off with it and buying you some time.
Unfortunately I don't think we'll have agreed on the best lock before we depart for the Italy Divide next Thursday.

Maybe the thru axle could be stored in a cigar case?

Can anyone recommend a cigar case?
What about a Nuun/Berocca type tube thing