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SOLD: PHD down bag

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 6:05 pm
by mtbmarkymark
For Sale
PHD "Autumn Racebag"
bought last in year in their excellent sale
essentially a minimus but with a few tweaks...... check out PHDesigns.co.uk
They have used 950 fill power down in place of the minimus' 900
The outer is dryshell water resistant fabric. The top is a petrol blue the underside black
The inner is black MX fabric
Drawcord hood but no zip, comes with a PDH stuffsack
PHD rated it to 8°C which i would say is about right
325g on my scales and packs up very small
I've only used it once and so of course it's mint. I tend to use a very similar bag but rated to around freezing instead hence the sale
i've taken a pic but it's too big to upload so if you are interested drop me an email to mtbmarkymark@gmail.com and i'll sent the pic over
£150 posted

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:02 pm
by PaulE
What length & width is it please? Don't need measurements, just if it's standard/long etc.

Ta!

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:42 pm
by mtbmarkymark
HI Paul,
sorry should have said...
It's standard length and standard width
Regards Mark

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:45 pm
by ScotRoutes
How "water resistant " is Dryshell?

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:04 pm
by PaulE
Think I'll need a long, at 6'2ish, sorry!

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:38 pm
by mtbmarkymark
@Scotroutes
PHD say "Ripstop nylon with an ultralight coating: achieves total windblock, along with high breathability and superior water resistance"
based on my experience with my other bag with a dryshell outer i would say it's great at resisting touching the condensation covered flysheet of my tent but i wouldn't ask much more of it
Regards Mark

@PaulE,
yes i'd agree, it's fine for me @ 6' but that's probably about the limit

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:32 am
by ScotRoutes
Thanks Mark. Not really what I'm after then :sad:

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 7:33 pm
by whitestone
Colin, I'd say the PHD covering is fine for dealing with mist when under a tarp or occasional contact with underside of same, it would also be fine for condensation when in a bivy bag but it wouldn't deal with drizzle or rain.

I'd have been interested in this but I've the PHD minimus it's based on so not much different to what I've got.

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:47 pm
by AlasdairMc
I'm interested in this - could you send a picture over please? When PhD rated it at 8 degrees is that comfort or limit?
Thanks

Alasdairmclean at gmail dot com

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:27 pm
by ianfitz
AlasdairMc wrote:I'm interested in this - could you send a picture over please? When PhD rated it at 8 degrees is that comfort or limit?
Thanks

Alasdairmclean at gmail dot com

I've a minimus too, rated at 8c. I'm not the warmest of sleepers and I'd say they are comfort ratings rather than limit.

They are crazy bags. It's hard to believe that something that small will have any warmth. But they are amazing.

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:59 pm
by mtbmarkymark
@ Alistair ..... pic sent

I find the temp rating of PHD's spot on. I would say it's a comfort rating of 8°C. This is just wearing baselayers in the bag. You might be able to push it a bit lower with a silk liner

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:18 am
by jamiep
If I didn't already have a PHD bag rated to minus something and 650g, I'd be right into this. My feeling is the rating is true Comfort rather than Limit, and I sleep cold. My bag is the best bit if kit I own even if they are spendy - amazing how smaaaaaall they pack for the temp rating.

Comment about waterproof/resistance is realistic.
I don't miss having a zip.

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:38 pm
by AlasdairMc
Thanks Jamie, I've bought it.

I've already got a Cumulus Quantum 350, so this is a good option for me for when it's warmer as I can boost it with a silk liner and/or a down jacket, which I'd be carrying anyway.

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:42 pm
by jamiep
I'm glad. That prevents me caving in and buying it

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:23 pm
by ianfitz
jamiep wrote:I'm glad. That prevents me caving in and buying it
Same here. A good price but a bit too much for a spare!

Re: F.S PHD down bag

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 9:52 am
by AlasdairMc
I now have too many sleeping bags though, so I'll be selling a Rab top bag soon. I think I've gone through every permutation of sleeping system so hopefully this one is perfect for my use.

The Alpkit quilt was an experiment in masochism, and it now gets used solely for hangovers on the sofa.