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Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:42 am
by ScotRoutes
We support (provide bikes and transport) for that holiday. We've been asked to consider doing the Cycling Butler role too.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:12 am
by mountainbaker
Talking of premium stuff, imagine a Shand x Rap.ha paint job on a cheap Chinese frame...

£4000 for three shades of dog sick green.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:49 pm
by Justchris
I don't think 4k for a holiday is rediculous. I recon to do the tour divide or trans am you would be dropping 5 -6k all in including a few days before and after. And that's not before you buy a load of new equipment, bike etc, because you would be pretty picky about what you brought.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:06 pm
by jameso
You could spend 5k but you don't need to. 2k inc flights no probs, 3 tops, assuming no need for a new bike?

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:49 pm
by ZeroDarkBivi
I didn't bite as I was convinced this was a spoof! vastly more expensive 'per mile' then the Rafa Ride, but I suppose that's not the point, and you do get to stay in some hotels with ridiculous names...

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:59 pm
by whitestone
Justchris wrote:I don't think 4k for a holiday is rediculous. I recon to do the tour divide or trans am you would be dropping 5 -6k all in including a few days before and after. And that's not before you buy a load of new equipment, bike etc, because you would be pretty picky about what you brought.
I saw an estimate on a US forum of $1/mile for the Tour Divide plus transport to the start and from the finish. I've no idea how accurate that is.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:00 am
by jameso
$1/mile for the Tour Divide plus transport to the start and from the finish
Sound high, but maybe. For any ride like that it probably depends how many nights you stay in lodges or motels more than anything else. I don't think the Divide has many places that are Crikey, how much Travel standard though : ) Food and coffee is certainly a bit below French standards..

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:59 am
by Single Speed George
Looking like this years Anapurna trip should come to around £1500-2000 including flights ... I know where I'd Rather be cycling (this opinion may change after our return )

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:09 pm
by ScotRoutes
ZeroDarkBivi wrote:
I didn't bite as I was convinced this was a spoof! vastly more expensive 'per mile' then the Rafa Ride, but I suppose that's not the point, and you do get to stay in some hotels with ridiculous names...
No spoof :-)

We had a dozen (6 couples) on it last year spread through the summer, but that was year 1 of offering it. We do some work with Headwater too. That's a wee bit cheaper but would still be classed as ludicrously expensive compared to bikepacking.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:23 pm
by biggaygibbon
I have expensive gear - Assos and Crikey, how much. I have less expensive gear - mainly Decathlon stuff. I can't see any difference in quality or feel any in terms of comfort or performance. And in terms of longevity the Decathlon jerseys and bibs seem to be holding up better if anything. At around 25% of the price I can't see the justification for more expensive kit other that fit preference or as a brand statement.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:24 pm
by Richard G
I don't think I'll be admitting in here what the flights for Leadville have cost me. :lol:

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:41 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
How do you drown a hipster?














In the mainstream :wink:

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:57 pm
by Fat tyre kicker
GROAN :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:23 pm
by ton
I wish they made 'fat bloke Crikey, how much'.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:42 pm
by voodoo_simon
With all the above comments, I'll be safe in the knowledge that only I'll be the only bear to enter into a chance of winning one of their holidays... :lol:
http://pages.Crikey, how much.cc/monuments

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:37 pm
by Richard G
That, plus the rather interesting URL... :lol:

On those subject. Those bastards didn't send me a badge for completing the Crikey, how much Festive 500.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:23 pm
by SRS
R.a.p.h.a's financials: http://leanluxe.com/raphas-12-year-fina ... e-learned/

Pre-tax profit margins reached their height in 2012 at 5.4%, and touched a low at in 2015 at 1.31%. For 2016, the pre-tax profit margin was 2.3%.

Production costs accounted for 51% of revenues in 2016.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:22 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Pre-tax profit margins reached their height in 2012 at 5.4%, and touched a low at in 2015 at 1.31%. For 2016, the pre-tax profit margin was 2.3%.
They could do with putting their prices up.

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:23 pm
by ZeroDarkBivi
Perhaps part of their problem is the huge range of products and the fickle fashion market. The seconds store, sorry, "archive clubhouse" in Somerset is always loaded full of gopping fashion clothing (rejected by the premier retail outlet customers) that anybody not visually impaired wouldn't touch with a shitty stick!

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:22 pm
by psling
Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Pre-tax profit margins reached their height in 2012 at 5.4%, and touched a low at in 2015 at 1.31%. For 2016, the pre-tax profit margin was 2.3%.
They could do with putting their prices up.
Aren't they the subject of an acquisition bid at the moment? Some sort of venture capitalist or brand acquisition company (or did I just make that up!?!)

Re: R.A.P.H.A. travel. If you thought the clothing was price

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:42 am
by Cheeky Monkey
psling wrote:
Bearbonesnorm wrote:
Pre-tax profit margins reached their height in 2012 at 5.4%, and touched a low at in 2015 at 1.31%. For 2016, the pre-tax profit margin was 2.3%.
They could do with putting their prices up.
Aren't they the subject of an acquisition bid at the moment? Some sort of venture capitalist or brand acquisition company (or did I just make that up!?!)
Read the link above, it's got some details. All falls pretty squarely into my WGAS category. £4k for that holiday might be "realistic" or "appropriate" given what they offer. It's still a sub standard load of stupid money IMO. And you know what they say about opinions ........ :wink: