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Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:02 pm
by lune ranger
Absolutely Dave. Can I still bring the oil though... could be handy out there all alone on the misty Moor... :shock: :lol:

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:12 pm
by GregMay
My old Crux developed a death creak at one point. It was the weld at the BB failing between it and the downtube.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:53 pm
by jaminb
Sorry i cant help with your creak but having swapped saddles this weekend and eliminated a 3 year old intermmitent creak on my Arkose the sense of relief and happiness in equal measures is immense.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm
by HUX
I've had this a few of times Dave and it drives you nuts. All have resulted in pretty much a full strip down. 1 ended up being a squeaky replaceable mech hanger. Quick smear of grease behind it and job done.
Another turned out to be the pin that stops the chain wedging between the ring and crank arm was touching the crank. Quick tickle with a file, no squeak.
I had a faulty alloy fork that took forever to track down. Stripped the fork out, lay flat and applied pressure and found the creak.
Had it around the stem too if the joints are dry and not tight enough.
Good luck :???:

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:26 pm
by Hamish
I had a stubborn creak on a SRAM chainset. I fiddled with the chainring bolts numerous times to no avail. In the end I removed the spider (it was an X9 and I didn’t know the spider was removable until I looked) and greased the spider to crank splines and the creak disappeared.

You say you don’t have chainrings... have you got a chainring to crank interface that you haven’t checked?

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:33 pm
by Charliecres
Just to add that I’ve had a seat post creak (and sound like it was the BB) even when not sat down, so don’t discount it for that reason.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:56 pm
by redefined_cycles
If its a press fit BB into a carbon frame Dave... I had that briefly on the canyon. I just squeezed some lube at the bb interface... then went out and rode and the lube must've worked it's way in and it never came back for over a year

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:12 pm
by redefined_cycles
Apparently the carbon fibres/resin/layup isn't happy with many/certain oils :o worked for me as it was weldtite (or just carbon paste :smile: )...

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:14 am
by ledburner
don't pedal so hard. instant fix.
Also get into down billing. all the creak will disappear.
is it your shoes /cleat or pedal issues?

it must be your knees!

your sleeveless jacket will be finished tommorrow :grin:

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:13 am
by redefined_cycles
your sleeveless jacket will be finished tommorrow :grin:
Didn't know Dave ordered a sleeveless hand-finished jacket too Dan :grin: Hope you'll do him a good job...

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:14 am
by Dave Barter
redefined_cycles wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:13 am
your sleeveless jacket will be finished tommorrow :grin:
Didn't know Dave ordered a sleeveless hand-finished jacket too Dan :grin: Hope you'll do him a good job...
I didn’t. I don’t have the arms for sleeveless

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:12 am
by pistonbroke
I don’t have the arms for sleeveless
Surely a sleeveless jacket is the perfect garment if you don't have arms?

I chased a creak around my Litespeed road bike for about 6 months before taking it into the shop in despair. The mechanic put a blob of grease on the Mavic wheel axle ends and it immediately disappeared. The alloy dropouts were rubbing against the alloy axle stubs and the noise was being amplified by the carbon fork.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:18 am
by RIP
pistonbroke wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:12 am
I don’t have the arms for sleeveless
Surely a sleeveless jacket is the perfect garment if you don't have arms?
:lol:

Well the number of suggestions is now reaching into the hundreds. On the edge of my seat (saddle?) wondering what it's finally going to be. On past form my vote is Dave just uses it as a perfectly valid excuse to buy a new bike :smile: .

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:44 am
by Kumquat
Remove, clean and lightly grease headset spacers.
Reassemble.
Yes I know it's your BB.
But sometimes it isn't.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:47 pm
by voodoo_simon
RIP wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:18 am
pistonbroke wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:12 am
I don’t have the arms for sleeveless
Surely a sleeveless jacket is the perfect garment if you don't have arms?
:lol:

Well the number of suggestions is now reaching into the hundreds. On the edge of my seat (saddle?) wondering what it's finally going to be. On past form my vote is Dave just uses it as a perfectly valid excuse to buy a new bike :smile: .
Or invest in some headphones and turn them up to 11...

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm
by Dave Barter
Basically the recommendations are to dismantle bike into component form, grease, cover in linseed then reassemble. Following that but a new bike

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:14 pm
by voodoo_simon
Dave Barter wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm Basically the recommendations are to dismantle bike into component form, grease, cover in linseed then reassemble. Following that but a new bike
Any parts you can borrow before you do that. Swap
Pedals around/wheels etc etc to see if it’s those parts?

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:47 pm
by lune ranger
Dave Barter wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm Basically the recommendations are to dismantle bike into component form, grease, cover in linseed then reassemble. Following that but a new bike
You forgot clothes and body parts there Dave

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm
by fatbikephil
Dave Barter wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:38 pm Basically the recommendations are to dismantle bike into component form, grease, cover in linseed then reassemble. Following that but a new bike
No we are telling you a number of things that will cause creaks, you have to eliminate each one in turn. This means you will take the bike entirely to pieces as the actual cause of the creak will be the last thing you check. This is traditional.

Oh and be thankful your not into old motorbikes :-bd

PS. Don't do the linseed oil thing, really.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:06 pm
by lune ranger
htrider wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm

PS. Don't do the linseed oil thing, really.
Why not? I did it last year and all that’s happened is I don’t have a creaky bike.

Disclaimer: It was a steel frame and traditional threaded BB.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:13 pm
by fatbikephil
Cos it will find its way into the BB bearings, wash out the grease and cause them to wear out (or let water in and fall apart)

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:18 pm
by lune ranger
I’ve not seen a PF BB but that’s not possible in my case because it’s a ‘proper’ Royce BB that’s got it’s own shell.
My worry was that the oil would find its way out of the breather holes and onto my rotor when the bike was hung up in the shed but that didn’t happen thankfully.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:56 am
by Dave Barter
Breaking news

I know you have all been in desperate tenterhooks imagining the goings on in the basement of swear. Well I’ve fixed it. Turned out that the shop who supplied me the bike had not torqued the bearing holders on the BB correctly. I removed and replaced them and now have a gorgeously quiet Crux.

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:40 pm
by thenorthwind
Congrats Dave, such a satisfying feeling isn't it!

Re: Help me with my creak

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:54 pm
by lune ranger
I would definitely still fill the frame with warm linseed oil - you can’t be sure how long the quiet is going to last.... :lol: