What makes an Adventure
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- ZeroDarkBivi
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What makes an Adventure
I found out the answer this morning.
Currently touring Southern Thailand, and whilst having breakfast this morning I was engaged in conversation by a loud Texan expat and his niece. The bike was in sight and the usual questions followed, culminating in the lady asking if I was blogging the trip. I replied in the negative - no interest in carrying a laptop or tablet. Her reply was enlightening: “that’s a shame; that would be a real adventure”.
As for the trip, it’s warm, mostly flat, always a tailwind, friendly locals, proper good food and bivis have a roof and a bed - the opposite of a proper Boners trip. TBH, there are a few too many highway sections that are just head down on the areo bars ticking off the distance, and hoping the drivers passing are paying some attention. Averaged over 30kph so far, so not remotely difficult terrain. That’ll change if it does rain.
So, now I have posted on here, that might make it a short rde?
Currently touring Southern Thailand, and whilst having breakfast this morning I was engaged in conversation by a loud Texan expat and his niece. The bike was in sight and the usual questions followed, culminating in the lady asking if I was blogging the trip. I replied in the negative - no interest in carrying a laptop or tablet. Her reply was enlightening: “that’s a shame; that would be a real adventure”.
As for the trip, it’s warm, mostly flat, always a tailwind, friendly locals, proper good food and bivis have a roof and a bed - the opposite of a proper Boners trip. TBH, there are a few too many highway sections that are just head down on the areo bars ticking off the distance, and hoping the drivers passing are paying some attention. Averaged over 30kph so far, so not remotely difficult terrain. That’ll change if it does rain.
So, now I have posted on here, that might make it a short rde?
- voodoo_simon
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Re: What makes an Adventure
Perhaps, or before we get to drawn in, did she say it in a meaningful way or a figurative of speech?
- thenorthwind
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Re: What makes an Adventure
That reminds me of the time I was leaving my student house to do a coast to coast ride. A housemate's girlfriend asked me "Are you doing it for charity?" to which I replied in the negative... "Why are you doing it then?"
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Re: What makes an Adventure
Confused - did she mean that the act of writing about your trip in the form of a blog would be an adventure or that writing about it in a blog would make the trip more of an adventure?
Virtual world init - she has you in front of her to talk to directly but seemingly appears to think it would be better to read about what your doing on a computer
Virtual world init - she has you in front of her to talk to directly but seemingly appears to think it would be better to read about what your doing on a computer
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Re: What makes an Adventure
Maybe she meant that it'd be worth recording.
Such a good adventure that others would enjoy reading about it.
Such a good adventure that others would enjoy reading about it.
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Blogging to some may be more of an adventure then a cycling trip of some sorts.
To me it would anyways.
It's more of an unknown to some then packing the bike and going on a trip into the wild for a few weeks.
I'm sure that's what she meant.
To me it would anyways.
It's more of an unknown to some then packing the bike and going on a trip into the wild for a few weeks.
I'm sure that's what she meant.
Re: What makes an Adventure
When i lived in York and London, we always saw the Japanese tourists that always seemed to have a camera or video camera attached to their face as we used to joke that they had their holiday when they got home, as they hadn't seen it whilst they were here!
I always wonder how many of the instagram bikepacking trips that take place actually do ride, you often see fully loaded but very clean bikes, that despite having what looks like 30kg of stuff loaded on them seem to be balanced by a wooden stick for the photos..
I always wonder how many of the instagram bikepacking trips that take place actually do ride, you often see fully loaded but very clean bikes, that despite having what looks like 30kg of stuff loaded on them seem to be balanced by a wooden stick for the photos..
Re: What makes an Adventure
What makes an adventure? In my opinion, your attitude.
Re: What makes an Adventure
I think, for a lot of people, adventure is something they only watch/read about, therefore it's only an adventure if shared and followed by others.
Your description makes it sound like you consider it more of a holiday than an adventure that needs recording.
You do realise she was just trying to get into your (less than optimally fresh) lycra?
Don't tell us you didn't go there. That could have been an adventure..........
Your description makes it sound like you consider it more of a holiday than an adventure that needs recording.
You do realise she was just trying to get into your (less than optimally fresh) lycra?
Don't tell us you didn't go there. That could have been an adventure..........
- BigdummySteve
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Re: What makes an Adventure
I had exactly the same response about my Jogle trip, eventually my wife made me raise some money for a local hospice.Of course then you have to blog the trip,I’ve refused to embrace the evil of Facebook so my wife posted regular updates etc, although it raised £500 the the very worthwhile hospice i felt it took something away from the trip. Most people I met along the way also assumed it was a charity ride.thenorthwind wrote:That reminds me of the time I was leaving my student house to do a coast to coast ride. A housemate's girlfriend asked me "Are you doing it for charity?" to which I replied in the negative... "Why are you doing it then?"
I think possibly some of these charity ride are another form of self promotion, the adventure is elevated to a higher plane by the charity angle thus the poster achieves more kudos amongst the Instagram/ Facebook believers.
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Re: What makes an Adventure
If you're in a social bubble where the only time you hear of someone doing LEJOG it is associated with a charity then it's perfectly reasonable to assume that everyone who does it is doing it for charity..
Some extreme positions being adopted in this thread. Go out. Ride your bike. Write about and share it if you want to. Stop trying to read too much into other folks actions.
Some extreme positions being adopted in this thread. Go out. Ride your bike. Write about and share it if you want to. Stop trying to read too much into other folks actions.
- ZeroDarkBivi
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Re: What makes an Adventure
Not having a go at bloggers; I learned loads from some of the older HT550 blogs when I started doing this, but the zeitgeist of hipster attempts to win the Turner Prize (or promote their position as prostitute influencers) are a bit of a turn-off. Quite happy to ride my bike without chugging, instagram hashtags, or self-affirming likes from the Facebook bubble of deciet!
It is a holiday and NO I DIDN’T!!! It was breakfast time and I had 190km to do that day. Otherwise...
Yes, this is just a pleasant holiday but my neck is already aching from too long in the aero bars; looking forward to some hills tomorrow.
It is a holiday and NO I DIDN’T!!! It was breakfast time and I had 190km to do that day. Otherwise...
Yes, this is just a pleasant holiday but my neck is already aching from too long in the aero bars; looking forward to some hills tomorrow.
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Re: What makes an Adventure
I`ve had worse things for breakfast!ZeroDarkBivi wrote:Not having a go at bloggers; I learned loads from some of the older HT550 blogs when I started doing this, but the zeitgeist of hipster attempts to win the Turner Prize (or promote their position as prostitute influencers) are a bit of a turn-off. Quite happy to ride my bike without chugging, instagram hashtags, or self-affirming likes from the Facebook bubble of deciet!
It is a holiday and NO I DIDN’T!!! It was breakfast time and I had 190km to do that day. Otherwise...
Yes, this is just a pleasant holiday but my neck is already aching from too long in the aero bars; looking forward to some hills tomorrow.
Re: What makes an Adventure
He was probably just concerned that Dad would insist on blogging it.......I`ve had worse things for breakfast!
Re: What makes an Adventure
just a pleasant holiday
neck is already aching from too long in the aero bars
I'm confused
What's the traffic been like? The opportunity to tour in Thailand comes up occasionally but I get warned off by impressions (though not mine) of drunk drivers and a lot of 4x4s being badly driven. Not sure it's actually any worse than the UK, though tbh I wouldn't do a long road ride here without very careful planning.
Blogging and sharing etc, I'm with SR here. Let's not fall into the negativity trap of thinking we know people or their intentions just from what we see posted online. Some people like to share stuff, maybe the main audience is their Mum and it's worth every selfie : ) yeah, some of it is narcissistic crap, it stands out when it is. I can think of some great instagram accounts and blogs that I follow for regular images and comments on people's trips. TBH I wish I could be arsed to write up more of my trips somewhere, I prefer to 'just ride' and it's too easy to move on afterwards and daily clutter can erode the detail in some of the memories too soon.
I did used to write a daily diary (on paper!) during my first bike tours and hiking trips. I like looking back on those.
- ZeroDarkBivi
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Re: What makes an Adventure
What's the traffic been like?
So far the traffic has not been bad at all - drivers use their horn as a friendly warning they are passing rather than in an aggressive manner. Local cops have been great, saluting me as I ride past! There is definitely a right-of-way based on size of vehicle, so even the mopeds take the piss at junctions, but you get used to being at the bottom of that food chain! I have no intention of riding at night (beyond 1800), and I deliberately got a taxi out of Bangkok to avoid that traffic madness!
In this Information Age, where precision navigation and easy access to gpx routes may have diluted the adventure aspect, I have found a good counter to that; handover total control of route selection to Komoot. By the time you realise it doesn’t know all the best trails, you are probably committed to following it anyway and that is the random path to a bit more adventure!!! certainly found myself on wet jungle trails today that my 30mm G-Ones where not optimised for...
So far the traffic has not been bad at all - drivers use their horn as a friendly warning they are passing rather than in an aggressive manner. Local cops have been great, saluting me as I ride past! There is definitely a right-of-way based on size of vehicle, so even the mopeds take the piss at junctions, but you get used to being at the bottom of that food chain! I have no intention of riding at night (beyond 1800), and I deliberately got a taxi out of Bangkok to avoid that traffic madness!
In this Information Age, where precision navigation and easy access to gpx routes may have diluted the adventure aspect, I have found a good counter to that; handover total control of route selection to Komoot. By the time you realise it doesn’t know all the best trails, you are probably committed to following it anyway and that is the random path to a bit more adventure!!! certainly found myself on wet jungle trails today that my 30mm G-Ones where not optimised for...
- Dave Barter
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Re: What makes an Adventure
My mum is the sole reason I started writing and sharing my "adventures". She took real pleasure in living something vicariously whilst fighting Ovarian cancer. Many others take great inspiration from the blogs and pictures of others no matter what the scale or nature of the trip. Please lets never ever discourage anyone from documenting their trip. It can do nothing but good. Remember that gobbing off in the pub about your last epic is essentially the same thing with a smaller audience.
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Re: What makes an Adventure
Good to know, thanks. My friend toured Bangkok to N Thailand a few years ago and said it was OK, though he stuck to tracks as much as he could. I get the 'might has right' road rules over there, it's just how it is and you ride accordingly, but family discouragement based on their non-cycling view of it is a bit frustrating. Anyway... Enjoy your trip!So far the traffic has not been bad at all
- ZeroDarkBivi
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Re: What makes an Adventure
Just cracked 215 km on the highway today, and might have to reconsider my previous comments! There is some random driving, particularly overtaking at crazy moments, but balanced by the relative lack of traffic (compared to the U.K.) and no worse than I experienced on the northern parts of the HT550, and less deliberately intimidating, just stupid! Could be poor education/awareness, just a more superstitious attitude (Insh Allah / Karma / whatever), or a culture more accepting of risk. The ‘hard shoulde’ is the safe place to ride, but you will regularly get vehicles going along it the wrong way!
All that said, I felt less safe as a taxi passenger than any time on the bike...
If I ride here again, it will be in the north; did a bit of mountain biking there and lots of potential.
All that said, I felt less safe as a taxi passenger than any time on the bike...
If I ride here again, it will be in the north; did a bit of mountain biking there and lots of potential.
Re: What makes an Adventure
Ooh, perhaps posting on the internet is actually slightly better as the audience is (or should be!) there by choice, I can leave if they're not actually interested.Dave Barter wrote: Remember that gobbing off in the pub about your last epic is essentially the same thing with a smaller audience.
I love reading people's threads/adventures on bike trips etc. I also especially like car build threads/write-ups. The internet is great for this, although the gradual death of the forum and the rise in social media type superficial blogging is a bit of a downer.
Er, I'll stop now before I go off on a tangent. I may have a long post for 2019 plans and 2018 review.... or I may just leave it.
Blah blah blah, Merry Christmas (or whatever other festivities you enjoy) everybody.