A bit of stove advice please (and bbul22g vs trangia)

[firestarter]

Ey up thanks to nick - teetosugars, I have a bar bag for my rather large sleeping bag and frame bag options too :)

I have a lux mini peak that I'm certain, well sort off lol will fit in an alpkit koala I'm thinking of buying

So that leaves me to sort my cooking stuff out, I currently have a trangia 25 and I like meths cooking (well boiling water if I'm honest)
I'm thinking an alpkit 650 myti a spork and then I get stuck

I have a stem cell, cheers again nick so I can carry things in that. But I'm thinking

Either a pocket stove with my current trangia but I read on here it takes quite a long time, or perhaps a bbul22g stove and some kind of shield
But is the 22g a better option, and is it stable enough, hope that makes sense

Any other advice ideas more than welcome :)

[Bearbonesnorm]

perhaps a bbul22g stove and some kind of shield

All I'm going to say is, any meths stove that isn't a Trangia ('cos they already have one) needs a windshield if you want to get the best from it. To a degree, it's almost more important than the stove

[ScotRoutes]

That reminds me - do you have a downloadable template for a 8g stove windshield Stu? I know you sent me one but I've lost it.....

[slarge]

Haven't used a trangia, but I have one of Stu's afterburner stoves and it is really good - and others who have seen it going have then gone out and bought one.

[Moder-dye]

My stove is basically this
https://vimeo.com/64726512
But made with a small energy drinks can so even smaller than a coke can. I made a windshield from heavy duty foil and it all fits inside a 650ml Ti mug with matches/firesteel and bit of cloth for wiping and holding the handle and a small insulation pad to sit the stove on. Also fits in an xl stem cell with space for plenty of 3:1 coffees and hotchocs on top.

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Here's a blogpost and video of it...
http://moder-dye.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09 ... t.html?m=1

[Bearbonesnorm]

That reminds me - do you have a downloadable template for a 8g stove windshield Stu? I know you sent me one but I've lost it.....

I'll email you a pdf Colin.

[fatbikephil]

I've used my my BB meths stove alot this year and I really like it. They take a bit of getting used to but they are surprisingly effective. I siliconed mine onto a baked beans tin base for extra stability and did a fair bit of experimenting with wind shields before settling on a home spun one. Meths doesn't like the cold so bung the bottle in your sleeping bag for a bit before use if its single figure temps. a 200ml bottle of meths does about 6 boils in a Ti cup.

[firestarter]

I was thinking the pocket stove would serve as a wind shield norm

Thanks for the info will think some more.

[Bearbonesnorm]

I was thinking the pocket stove would serve as a wind shield norm

Yes, no and it depends ... 8g and 22g stoves work by pressurising the stove, so the pot / mug needs to sit directly on the stove. You'd need a very small mug to achieve that with the meths stove inside a pocket stove. If you could find something to fit, you may also find that the internal air volume of the 'windshield' is too small and will starve the stove of air. Lastly, there's the issue that the holes in a pocket stove are really in the wrong place and would reduce any chimney effect and not actually provide much of a shield.

[benp1]

Homemade Vaseline meths burner in my pocket stove still requires a windshield. Red bull one is too wide to fit

Use my BB 8g stove the most

[firestarter]

So.... Norm would the 8 or 22 be most suitable for a 650 mug. I was thinking probably the 22 as it's a bigger Base for the mug to stand on

[Bearbonesnorm]

So.... Norm would the 8 or 22 be most suitable for a 650 mug. I was thinking probably the 22 as it's a bigger Base for the mug to stand on

22g really but people have used a 650 with the 8g. Although, there's no way it'll boil 600ml of water without refueling and I've always made special oversize tapered windshields which provides the stability ... it'd be a bit of a juggling act otherwise.

[firestarter]

Thanks I'll buy a 22g

Just before I do does the premade wind shield work with the 650 myti or would it if I managed to cut a handle slot in it thanks

[Bearbonesnorm]

Just before I do does the premade wind shield work with the 650 myti or would it if I managed to cut a handle slot in it thanks

It does but I can tailor it to suit a little if you like ... it'll make it less universal but more efficient and it'll also fit inside the mug.

[firestarter]

That would be fantastic mate thank-you I will make the order now

[firestarter]

Put order in also ordered a 650 cosi now I best go order a mug lol thanks again

[Bearbonesnorm]

[psling]

So that leaves me to sort my cooking stuff out, I currently have a trangia 25 and I like meths cooking (well boiling water if I'm honest)
I'm thinking an alpkit 650 myti a spork and then I get stuck

Any other advice ideas more than welcome :)

I have a ti spork somewhere I can post to you if you drop a £1 or 2 in the Air Ambulance box next time you see one. PM me your address and I'll drop it in an envelope.

[firestarter]

That would be great many thanks we use the air ambulance a lot at work so it's a charity close to my heart so no dramas about that thanks again

[Teetosugars]

Nothing to add, but no dramas at all Mick!
Great to catch up with you Pal.

[firestarter]

You too nick and thanks again my bike packing virginity will soon be yours lol

And again thanks to all for the info

[TheBrownDog]

Im late into this as Ive been busy this weekend.

Big fan of the BB stoves but Ive been using storminstoves cone for a few months and it's the best combination of speed to boil, weight, stability and packability that Ive come across.

http://www.storminstovesystems.co.uk/stormin-stove/

[Bearbonesnorm]

storminstoves cone

A cone is by far the most efficient type of windshield ... it's the reason Trail Designs make the Caldera in all its different guises and why the 8g stove template is cone shaped. The open chamber Storminstoves stove is actually a very inefficient design but the windshield makes up for it. As I said earlier ...

To a degree, it's almost more important than the stove