Alternative hunka-xl?

[Moder-dye]

Ah well thanks for the heads up on that

[Cheeky Monkey]

Cheers, the kestrel is on sale and looks good. Just need to speak to the Chancellor

Nowhere near as big as a Hunka XL ... you'll not fit a air mat in one.

I was about to say the same thing. Kestrel is sized more like a regular Hunka so doesn't sound like it'll meet your needs.

[Moder-dye]

I think I'll just hang out for a hunka xl they're due in in March so I can wait until then. Pity you don't seem to be able to pre order.

Thanks

[Bearbonesnorm]

If you want to go down the ultralight, yet not actually waterproof route, I'd look towards Borah. I really rate the Kestral but the Borah bags are much larger and also very well made, etc.

[Moder-dye]

Borah would probably suit my needs really. Yes want much lighter than my current one which is nearly 1kg, but doesn't need to be stand alone in the pouring rain standard

[godivatrailrider]

Tigoat make great bags. Bigger than an xl hunka, and mine has the hood, mesh or open setup. Weights next to nothing either.

Have a look on their website http://www.titaniumgoat.com/index.html

Oh and they currently have a sale on. Shipping took 4-6 days.

Looks excellent ! With a zip and bug net it'd alleviate most of my bivi worries.
"Size: 76" chest girth, 48" foot girth, 87" length.
Will fit long winter bags up to 6ft tall user."
(193cm chest girth, 122cm foot girth, 221 length)
vs Hunka XL
"Tapered shape: 235 cm long x 98 cm wide at the shoulders/72 cm at the feet "

So XL is longer (I'm 5'10" ) ...
I'll have a think.

[godivatrailrider]

Cheers, the kestrel is on sale and looks good. Just need to speak to the Chancellor

Nowhere near as big as a Hunka XL ... you'll not fit a air mat in one.

Bugger

[whitestone]

I've both a Borah Cuben Bivy (standard size) and a Hunka XL. I got the Borah off IanFitz when he was selling it on here, not used it in anger yet. In comparison:

The Borah is bigger, not by much, maybe a couple of cm in width.
The Borah is much lighter. Actually it's 125g compared to the HXL's 500g
The Hunka is more robust. Given the difference in weight this shouldn't be a surprise.
The Borah is midge proof and you can completely zip it up.
The Hunka is cheaper.

Neither are completely waterproof as the Borah has the noseeum panel and the HXL enclosure is a drawstring so there's always some form of hole but the HXL is closer to being waterproof as you could use it "upside down" and have the hood upperside. I'd be prepared to use the Hunka standalone but unless there was no rain forecast I'd use the Borah with a tarp.

For those times I want to be really lightweight then I'll take the Borah but for general use I'd go with the Hunka due to the better robustness.

[godivatrailrider]

It's the lack of zip that puts me off the Hunka XL ... at my age I need a piss in the night... I'd hate having to climb out the bag rather than just unzipping it :/

[whitestone]

It's the lack of zip that puts me off the Hunka XL ... at my age I need a piss in the night... I'd hate having to climb out the bag rather than just unzipping it :/

You can get a side zip for the Borah though mine just has a chest zip.

[godivatrailrider]

It's the lack of zip that puts me off the Hunka XL ... at my age I need a piss in the night... I'd hate having to climb out the bag rather than just unzipping it :/

You can get a side zip for the Borah though mine just has a chest zip.

Borah
Large sized girth is 78" at the shoulders and 64" at the foot

VS .
"Size: 76" chest girth, 48" foot girth, 87" length.
Will fit long winter bags up to 6ft tall user."
(193cm chest girth, 122cm foot girth, 221 length)
vs Hunka XL
"Tapered shape: 235 cm long x 98 cm wide at the shoulders/72 cm at the feet "

They do say for users over 220lb probably get a custom one

[Teetosugars]

It's the lack of zip that puts me off the Hunka XL ... at my age I need a piss in the night... I'd hate having to climb out the bag rather than just unzipping it :/

You need one these..

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Karrimor-Trita ... uth+bottle

[godivatrailrider]

I use an old drinks bottle but not in a Hunka XL

[benp1]

My spreadsheet says that my Borah Bivy weighs 216g

Normal big size, but it has a L shape zipper and a letter box mesh rather than the full top half. Couple of extra tie outs too

Fits a large Neoair and a big down sleeping bag, plus me at 6'3

[whitestone]

Ben, I take it that's the Ultralight side bivy http://borahgear.com/sidebivy.html rather than the cuben fibre one?

[dlovett]

I made the comparison chart before I got my Tigoat, it might help you out.

Brand/Model
Weight
Length
Shoulder Width
Foot Width
Special Features
Price
Web Link
Borah Gear Side zipper ultralight bivy
206g
195
198
162
M90 Long/Wide Full Size Hood
$84.99
http:// borahgear.com/ sidebivy.html
Borah Gear Side zipper ultralight bivy
181g
195
198
162
Argon Long/ Wide Full Size Hood
$94.99
http:// borahgear.com/ sidebivy.html
Borah Gear Side zipper ultralight bivy
198g
185
185
152
M90 Standard Full Size Hood
$84.99
http:// borahgear.com/ sidebivy.html
Borah Gear Side zipper ultralight bivy
172g
185
185
152
Argon Standard Full Size Hood
$94.99
http:// borahgear.com/ sidebivy.html
Katabaticgear Bristlecone Bivy Long
215g
231
193
137
Mesh Window
$155.00
https:// katabaticgear.co m/shop/ bristlecone-bivy/
Katabaticgear Bristlecone Bivy Long Wide
255g
236
223
172
Mesh Window
$165.00
https:// katabaticgear.co m/shop/ bristlecone-bivy/
Katabaticgear Bristlecone Bivy Regular
198g
215
193
137
Mesh Window
$155.00
https:// katabaticgear.co m/shop/ bristlecone-bivy/
Katabaticgear Bristlecone Bivy Regular Wide
240g
220
223
172
Mesh Window
$165.00
https:// katabaticgear.co m/shop/ bristlecone-bivy/
MLD Superlight L
215g
185
200
152
Pro Silnylon, Net Face Window
$200.00
http://
www.mountainla ureldesigns.com /shop/ product_info.php

?products_id=30

MLD Superlight M
200g
182
187
142
Pro Silnylon, Net Face Window
$175.00
http://
www.mountainla ureldesigns.com /shop/ product_info.php

?products_id=30
MLD Superlight XL
230g
195
215
163
Pro Silnylon, Net Face Window
$215.00
http://
www.mountainla ureldesigns.com /shop/ product_info.php

?products_id=30
Oware Bivy Large Long Side zip
243g
261
172
157
Mesh Window
$200.00
http://
shop.bivysack.c om/ BivyLargeLongS idezip-1BivyLarg eLongSidezip.ht m

TI Goat Ptarmigan
184g
220
193
121
Full Hood + Fabric Hood
$110.00
http://
www.titaniumgo at.com/Bivy.html
TI Goat Raven Omni
229g
233
193
152
Full Hood + Fabric Hood
$155.00
http:// www.titaniumgo at.com/Omni- Bivy.html
ZPacksTM Splash Bivy Large
210g
226
208
Cuben Fiber Mesh Window
$240.00
http:// www.zpacks.co m/shelter/ bivy.shtml
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[Moder-dye]

Hunka xl is back in stock for pre-order

Got a stealth kelp one ordered

[mechanicaldope]

How big do you have to be for a regular hunka to be too small? I'm 5"10 (173cm) and fairly thin (65kg). Was planning on getting a regular but is it worth holding out for an xl?

[Bearbonesnorm]

The standard size is fine if you're of average build and don't plan on filling it with a proper winter bag and thick air mat. Use the mat on the outside and it's fine outside of those times when you're using previously mentioned, great big sleeping bag.

[whitestone]

It's not you but you plus sleeping bag and sleeping mat. All that volume needs a bigger bivy - I could get all the kit in a normal sized bag but by the time I wriggled inside as well, all the down was compressed and I felt like I'd been wrapped for posting

[mechanicaldope]

So basically, the bigger the better. Damn. Was trying to avoid an extra £18...

[mechanicaldope]

Anyone ever used one of the army surplus gortex bags? They look big (and £30). And everyone knows squaddies won't have done anything horrific in it...

[Bearbonesnorm]

Anyone ever used one of the army surplus gortex bags? They look big (and £30). And everyone knows squaddies won't have done anything horrific in it...

Very similar design to a Hunka and generally (they do vary a little) a touch bigger than a Hunka XL ... main issue tends to be weight, they're not noted for their lightweight properties.