The opposite of everything we strive for......
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The opposite of everything we strive for......
Those that know me know im always thinking about 100 different things and projects at once in my mind.
well the latest was an E- long-tail cargo bike
found a deal on an xtracycle free radical kit .
Which fitted that frame but unfortunantly that frame doesnt fit the wife.....
so i aquired a kona sutra from the depths of a mates garage and a box from ikea for the front for errands.
Frame fits the wife and me quite well despite being much smaller - high handlebars and just change the seat height.
the all important coffee cup holder ..... (doubles as a bottle holder)
Then i fitted a bafang motor - with a 17.9 ah 48v battery - which i know your all going "YOU LAZY sub standard"
how ever this bike is about arriving where i want to go not sweaty (if i want to do that right now i take the van - which is being sold) Its about bringing the shopping home without it taking 3hrs. Its about wanting to be able to go places in regular clothes and shoes without feeling the need to get into bike clothes. Its about nipping into the village for a pint on a saturday night with the wife on the back without suffering all the way home (its all mega uphill from the village) its about taking the (not yet on the cards) kids to the park without suffering like a dog and needing a rest when i get there :D
In short its bloody great fun - its limited to 15.5 mph as per the law but that is fast enough to be going when you can do it regardless of gradient or weight. so far ive had 100lb load on the back and rode into work in my shirt and trousers without any sweat patches forming
Im sold on what i built it for :D
well the latest was an E- long-tail cargo bike
found a deal on an xtracycle free radical kit .
Which fitted that frame but unfortunantly that frame doesnt fit the wife.....
so i aquired a kona sutra from the depths of a mates garage and a box from ikea for the front for errands.
Frame fits the wife and me quite well despite being much smaller - high handlebars and just change the seat height.
the all important coffee cup holder ..... (doubles as a bottle holder)
Then i fitted a bafang motor - with a 17.9 ah 48v battery - which i know your all going "YOU LAZY sub standard"
how ever this bike is about arriving where i want to go not sweaty (if i want to do that right now i take the van - which is being sold) Its about bringing the shopping home without it taking 3hrs. Its about wanting to be able to go places in regular clothes and shoes without feeling the need to get into bike clothes. Its about nipping into the village for a pint on a saturday night with the wife on the back without suffering all the way home (its all mega uphill from the village) its about taking the (not yet on the cards) kids to the park without suffering like a dog and needing a rest when i get there :D
In short its bloody great fun - its limited to 15.5 mph as per the law but that is fast enough to be going when you can do it regardless of gradient or weight. so far ive had 100lb load on the back and rode into work in my shirt and trousers without any sweat patches forming
Im sold on what i built it for :D
- johnnystorm
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Re: The opposite of everything we strive for......
Could you give us a bit more detail on the bafang motor....price, ease of installation, etc
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It came from em3ev in China
It landed at my door for 1005 quid.
It was a piece of piss to fit. Remove bb and chainset. Push the bb through the bb shell, screw in NDs cup and fit the clamp over the shell and bolt to motor . Fit lock ring
Fit speed sensor to rear wheel
Wire in battery.
Fit brake levers (,have cut out built in to kill moor when you brake)
Fit the screen.
Test ride.
One thing is my battery is a monster. I calced based on maths from Fanny's who think these are electric motorbikes not pish bikes. I hardly use any power for a majority of my journeys just on the hills. I ride at more than 15.5mph on the flat. Although I did noticed a difference when I had 2 lead acid car battery's ,5 litres of 5-20 weight and filters for the van home.
I did change the front chainring from a 44 to a 36 though as you need to keep motor rpm up to avoid bursting the controller mosfets
It landed at my door for 1005 quid.
It was a piece of piss to fit. Remove bb and chainset. Push the bb through the bb shell, screw in NDs cup and fit the clamp over the shell and bolt to motor . Fit lock ring
Fit speed sensor to rear wheel
Wire in battery.
Fit brake levers (,have cut out built in to kill moor when you brake)
Fit the screen.
Test ride.
One thing is my battery is a monster. I calced based on maths from Fanny's who think these are electric motorbikes not pish bikes. I hardly use any power for a majority of my journeys just on the hills. I ride at more than 15.5mph on the flat. Although I did noticed a difference when I had 2 lead acid car battery's ,5 litres of 5-20 weight and filters for the van home.
I did change the front chainring from a 44 to a 36 though as you need to keep motor rpm up to avoid bursting the controller mosfets
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Re: The opposite of everything we strive for......
Fantabulous. That's quite an investment in the motor but if you have it for a few years and it keeps doing what its doing, which seems to be 75% of the work a car might do, you get that back in spades. Nice one.
I'm just going outside ...
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The battery was the costly bit.
If I was doing it again I'd go with a much smaller battery
Would cost about 600 total I think.
Exchange rate plummet didn't help matters.
If I was doing it again I'd go with a much smaller battery
Would cost about 600 total I think.
Exchange rate plummet didn't help matters.
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Riding in to work in it in the morning.
Got a. Big ole trolley jack to pick up from a mates tomorrow night as I'm doing a full rear axle swap on a berlingo on Friday.
Got a. Big ole trolley jack to pick up from a mates tomorrow night as I'm doing a full rear axle swap on a berlingo on Friday.
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Pictures not showing on my screen, sadly
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Oh bugger. Is it just Ian or are they not showing for all. Need photos for maximum offence to be caused !
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Ian wrote:Pictures not showing on my screen, sadly
For some reason they don't show on mine on firefox (might be one of the extensions I'm running), but it does show on chrome on the same PC.Trail-rat wrote:Oh bugger. Is it just Ian or are they not showing for all. Need photos for maximum offence to be caused !
On another note, I love this - quite fancy building my own - but might fab up the cargo frame bit myself. Need to find my own workshop space first, and some space to store the bike
I see that there is a bafang motor rated at 1kW...that sounds like it could be funTrail-rat wrote: Then i fitted a bafang motor - with a 17.9 ah 48v battery
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Na em3ev do down rated motors
15.5mph speed restricted @250 watt. dont want to get in trouble with the 5-0 .... its points on licence etc.
Bigger windings and more MOSFETs from bigger motor for torque and less chance if cooking it on long hills loaded
15.5mph speed restricted @250 watt. dont want to get in trouble with the 5-0 .... its points on licence etc.
Bigger windings and more MOSFETs from bigger motor for torque and less chance if cooking it on long hills loaded
- johnnystorm
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Re: The opposite of everything we strive for......
Cheers! Off to peruse that website....
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this is next on my list.....but might fab up the cargo frame bit myself
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Just been trying to sell the benefits of this to the misses, I was swiftly told to f*!k off and get off that bloody internet!
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My Mrs was on the fence but knows once I have a notion for a project and am willing to part with cash to achieve it then it's a lost cause.
Moths have been known to suffocate in my wallet as I don't often open it.....
Today I took her to the bus stop on the xtracycle today as the car bridge to the village is shut and only a single track through the woods to the village
She absolutely loves it now.
Moths have been known to suffocate in my wallet as I don't often open it.....
Today I took her to the bus stop on the xtracycle today as the car bridge to the village is shut and only a single track through the woods to the village
She absolutely loves it now.
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Where did you get the extracycle from? I have an old giant frame up the loft that would do perfectly for this
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So am I the only person that can't see the images then...?
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Bit weird. Here's a direct link to one of them. Does that work, if you click it?Ian wrote:So am I the only person that can't see the images then...?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M1ZiS ... 1680-rw-no
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Nope, it just downloads an "image": "IMG_20160731_132224148.webp", which I can't open.gma wrote:Bit weird. Here's a direct link to one of them. Does that work, if you click it?Ian wrote:So am I the only person that can't see the images then...?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M1ZiS ... 1680-rw-no
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Ah, that explains it.Ian wrote:Nope, it just downloads an "image": "IMG_20160731_132224148.webp", which I can't open.
WebP is an image file format developed by Google, that's only supported by Chrome and Opera at the moment. I hadn't realised these weren't JPEGs. Perhaps @Trail-rat uploaded them from some of Google's own software (e.g. Picassa) and it used their own file format?
If you've got access to Chrome, it'll be able to show them.
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yeah i used picasa.
what hosting are folk using these days that i can upload to from phone and see on computer
photobuckets out as its full of pop ups that make my phone noisy !
what hosting are folk using these days that i can upload to from phone and see on computer
photobuckets out as its full of pop ups that make my phone noisy !
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Ah, thanks gma. I like it when I actually know why something is happening, rather than just working out a solution - but not sure why!gma wrote:Ah, that explains it.Ian wrote:Nope, it just downloads an "image": "IMG_20160731_132224148.webp", which I can't open.
WebP is an image file format developed by Google, that's only supported by Chrome and Opera at the moment. I hadn't realised these weren't JPEGs. Perhaps @Trail-rat uploaded them from some of Google's own software (e.g. Picassa) and it used their own file format?
If you've got access to Chrome, it'll be able to show them.
Zippy wrote:Ian wrote:Pictures not showing on my screen, sadlyFor some reason they don't show on mine on firefox (might be one of the extensions I'm running), but it does show on chrome on the same PC.Trail-rat wrote:Oh bugger. Is it just Ian or are they not showing for all. Need photos for maximum offence to be caused !
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blair
the xtracycle was a used item off STW .
The price of a new one made me baulk.
By the time you add bags , top deck wide loaders and a long loader....your north of 1000 quid :O
i paid no where near that ! - not even close - n0t even close to half...
the xtracycle was a used item off STW .
The price of a new one made me baulk.
By the time you add bags , top deck wide loaders and a long loader....your north of 1000 quid :O
i paid no where near that ! - not even close - n0t even close to half...
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Flickr is OK, but not easy to post images from a phone into a forum post.Trail-rat wrote:yeah i used picasa.
what hosting are folk using these days that i can upload to from phone and see on computer
photobuckets out as its full of pop ups that make my phone noisy !
Lately, I've been uploading to Wordpress and then adding the image URL to a post, and it gets resized to fit the screen (which Flickr doesn't)
Being an Apple user I haven't installed Chrome. But thanks, Google, for introducing a new image format that replaces the long established and universally accepted jpg format
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We said the same thing when TIFF was superceded by JPG. It's not truly the Big G's fault...you could always shift the blame to the lazy sods that make all the other browsers and say they just need to get their act together and render this new stuff. :)Ian wrote:...But thanks, Google, for introducing a new image format that replaces the long established and universally accepted jpg format
If people just adopted PNG properly we wouldn't need yet another image format.
But in the spirit of the thread, it really is the opposite of what we strive for...which is ease of use and interoperability.
Now...back on topic...
Greetz
S.
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does that work for you ian ?
Used tiny pic this time and its a Jpeg.
Will need to have a look round for something i can upload to from my phone and link with. its a pain in the hoop using a computer for these things again.