Cheers all

As is usual I'll have to do some reading.

I have jones on one bike and always loved the position. On the full suss I've never got around to swapping so hence the geometry question.

Interesting about the seat bar height. I have no idea at the moment how they are on both bikes

So you have a bike designed for standard bars and stem.

Jones type bars sweep back much further. Let's say 50mm for simplicity.

If you then change the stem as well to something 50mm longer do you have an identical geometry and set up, just with the sweep bars

I am assuming width is the same.

Cheers both.

Really not sure of intended use but probably more road than off road.

At 185 cm, 6'1" in old money would an XL camino be too big?

Size guide does say L is up to 6' 2" but thought I'd ask here what people are riding.

What Whitestone says about the Earby to long Preston. The pbw is a depressing trudge especially when soft, where as the back lanes are actually quite pleasant and don't take too long. The pbw from Glossop to hollingworth lake has its failings. This is my alternative which in my opinion is far more e...

There is also greggs hut of course.

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High Cup nick is stunning and really not to be missed. Conditions up there amazing at the moment too. As for cow Green, it is very popular with camper vans. We were going to bivvy there a few weeks back but passed a shooting hut open with a fire and wood. Really welcome on a cold night. Here 54.6825...

I'm no merino fan either. They make good pj's but that's it. My favourite base layer is a now aging cannondale polartec 100 fleece. Got 2 and they must be 25 years old at least and getting thinner by the minute. But I've never found a base to match them. Wish I'd bought 20, not 2. I can wear it on i...

Thx richP

Richpips wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:43 pm

fatbikerbill wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:20 pm So, as it says on the tin, the whole thing is 550 miles.

Just wondering what are the distances of the three separate loops if done individually?

Approximately

Bottom - 168
Middle - 259
Top - 116

So, as it says on the tin, the whole thing is 550 miles.

Just wondering what are the distances of the three separate loops if done individually?

That sounds like a great improvement.

I like and approve of the 'drop the BBC news'

I also do the no caffeine after lunch. I'd try earlier but I do enjoy my aeropress coffee.

There are so many different causes as shown above. I used to suffer from achy leg syndrome, still do occasionally. Go straight to sleep, wake up an hour later. My best cure was get up, have some cereal, go back to bed an hour later. Now I either get back ache about 4am or just randomly wake up and t...

Eup,

came back with a 'no thanks', sorry

i have asked a mate

Can't stand pot noodles.

Firepot, I think that is what I've had before, the dhal was good if I remember something.

Thx

Failing that, what do you recommend?

I certainly hadn't thought about the increase in stress, that does make sense.

I'd like to try it, but can't justify the two new poles I'd need as both would obviously be longer than my current single pole.

A quick Google. The showa gloves are only £8.99 from screwfix https://www.screwfix.com/p/showa-281-temres-gauntlets-blue-large/52263?tc=NB3&ds_kid=92700048793290415&ds_rl=1244069&gclid=Cj0KCQiAy579BRCPARIsAB6QoIZyiCrs0b5jGojk0XZhy_E-WYdtIS2-IU2xIDvMFHlUC9kmRCtnBmwaAsA_EALw_wcB&gclsrc...

So I have a tarp, a bare paws lair to be precise that like many is designed for a single vertical pole. I have such a pole courtesy of Stuart that is great. But as I slept in it the other night I wondered why not have an 'A' pole. It would give so much more room underneath the tarp. The hard bit wou...

I really appreciate my terra nova laser competition on those non bivvy nights. 1.1kg, lighter versions are available. I'm 185 tall and there's plenty of room lying down or sitting up. Strictly a 3 pole because of the little diddy end poles but it's stable, has a great porch and if you were very frie...

Are you talking about the original on one fatty? I used to own one and loved it. IMO you can not fit much above 4" in the rear but that will depend on your rims. Mine were standard rims. On the front I too had the carbon fork (highly recommended) and happily ran a 4.8 bud. The combo was great.

That does sound good going, almost what I'd expect from the road bike.

As has been said I guess it varies with conditions, terrain and how much Lancashire slop you get.

piemonster - yeah that is exactly what I was thinkink, though perhaps 3 chains is OTT. I too used to do it in the old days , then fatigue set in. I do clean the chain every ride & use squirt normally, although I have just retired it for winter slop. I find it incomaptible with this current Lanca...

For those that rotate their chains on an mtb ?

How many chains and how often?

I am thinking 2 or 3 chains and perhaps every 300 to 500 km.

Ahh bugger Andy, now the light is pointing backwards.

What to do!